Delgado 5-Game Injury --- Please Fix

Delgado 5-Game Injury --- Please Fix

Postby Urishade » Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:57 am

Bernie,

I recently saw a post that had 600 PA Hudson getting injured for 15 games so I thought it was important to point out that I experienced a similar problem. In my case it was Delgado and he was injured for five games. Not as severe an error with the system due to the number of games but still a big issue as it shows the system is still breaking down and giving 600 PA guys injuries exceeding three games.

Please fix this situation with my team and keep up the good work of making this game so great. Thank you.

[url]http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/baseball/stratomatic/2007/team/team_other.html?user_id=3123&stats=sim[/url]
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Postby Free Radicals » Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:27 am

Delgado is at 598 plate appearances .At bats plus walks equals plate appearances. Be glad you didn't get a 15 game injury . So your asking for something that will not happen . :wink:
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Postby Urishade » Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:31 pm

Well the spreadsheet that TSN puts out indicates that he has 618 PAs. Additionally it is my understanding that HBP (he has a HBP on 10 vs. righties) and sacrifices would count as plate appearances as well thus adding the 20 PAs that bring him from 598 (ABs + BBs) to the 618 reported on the spreadhseet.

It is only two extra games but in light of the recent error with Hudson I think that there is a recurring problem going on within the system. One that needs to be addressed. So I stand my assertion that he should not have goten injured for 5 games.
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Postby geekor » Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:56 pm

PA's do not include HBP.. it is only AB's + BB's.

Either the spreadsheet (I did not know there was one) TSN gave out is wrong, or somehow your info is.
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Postby Urishade » Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:06 pm

I'm sorry but I cannot disagree with you guys more. All information that I can gather about plate appearances includes HBP and sacrifices. So I can't see how Delgado doesn't have the 618 PAs that the spreadsheet says that he does considering that he has a HBP on 10 vs. righites so He'll get hit by a pitch more than twice in a season.

TSN agrees since the information that they supply notes that he has 618 PAs. So I ask again that someone please look into this situation. The two extra games is not a big deal in the grand scheme of things but the fact that a second 600 PA guy went down for more than three games in less than a week's time says to me that something is wrong with the system.

Here is a link to Baseball Prospectus and its definition of PAs.
[url]http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=121[/url]
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Postby LMBombers » Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:20 pm

urishade, For TSN/SOM purposes PA is ONLY AB + walks and nothing else. I agree with you that HBP and other plays add to PA in real baseball but we are talking TSN/SOM baseball and it is only AB + walks.

For one thing it is much easier to calculate based on the stats that are given in the game for each player. That is probably why they went with a more simple calculation.

Delgado does not qualify for the 3 game max injury in this game.
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Postby Urishade » Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:04 pm

Well you learn something new everyday. Given the amount of detail that goes into this game and the information provided by TSN in their player spreadsheet I assumed that the game would calculate PAs the same way real baseball does.

But I guess it is easier for people to determine PAs by just adding ABs and BBs so TSN uses that number. My overthinking got the better of me on this one. Should have stuck with the old adage, Keep It Simple Stupid.

Mea Culpa,

I am removing my request for a fix.
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Postby Free Radicals » Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:30 am

On a players card here on TSN there is no category for HBP or sacs on the card . Thus for basic simplicity of reading a card is ab + bb. It's a real bite in the rear when a good players pa's add up to 598-599 and such . You know they got those extra couple of pa's in reality , but oh well , such is strat ! :wink:
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Postby bernieh » Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:05 pm

[quote:f0fa9e6ec8="LMBombers"]urishade, For TSN/SOM purposes PA is ONLY AB + walks and nothing else. I agree with you that HBP and other plays add to PA in real baseball but we are talking TSN/SOM baseball and it is only AB + walks.

For one thing it is much easier to calculate based on the stats that are given in the game for each player. That is probably why they went with a more simple calculation.

Delgado does not qualify for the 3 game max injury in this game.[/quote:f0fa9e6ec8]
LMBombers is 100% correct. However don't feel as if the confusion was caused by your own ignorance, urishade; I don't think we make this part of the rules very clear. I'll try to rectify that.
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