Tanking in a live draft league - what can be done?

Tanking in a live draft league - what can be done?

Postby LoopsandRolls » Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:08 pm

Check this out, Manny dropped for Marcus Thames, Ordonez for Floyd?

Of course just two teams were around picking up the free agents and the competitive balance of our league has been destroyed. What can be done? Can this crazy action be reversed?

04/21 Maine Man added Floyd, Cliff
04/21 Maine Man dropped Ordonez, Magglio
04/21 Maine Man added Upton, Justin
04/21 Maine Man dropped Rios, Alex
04/21 Maine Man added Reynolds, Mark
04/21 Maine Man dropped Schumaker, Skip
04/21 Maine Man added Monroe, Craig
04/21 Maine Man dropped Taveras, Willy
04/21 Maine Man added Kubel, Jason
04/21 Maine Man dropped Alou, Moises
04/21 Maine Man added Thames, Marcus
04/21 Maine Man dropped Ramirez, Manny
04/21 Maine Man added Harris, Willie
04/21 Maine Man dropped Zobrist, Ben
04/21 Maine Man added Barmes, Clint
04/21 Maine Man dropped Reyes, Jose
04/21 Maine Man added Baker, Jeff
04/21 Maine Man dropped Lopez, Jose
04/21 Maine Man added Mather, Joe
04/21 Maine Man dropped Guillen, Carlos
04/21 Maine Man added Encarnacion, Edwin
04/21 Maine Man dropped Huff, Aubrey
04/21 Maine Man added Hairston, Scott
04/21 Maine Man dropped Kinsler, Ian
04/21 Maine Man added Davis, Chris
04/21 Maine Man dropped Young, Dmitri
04/21 Maine Man added Jacobs, Mike
04/21 Maine Man dropped Davis, Chris
04/21 Maine Man added Coste, Chris
04/21 Maine Man dropped Montero, Miguel
04/21 Maine Man added Miller, Corky
04/21 Maine Man dropped McCann, Brian
04/21 Maine Man added Majewski, Gary
04/21 Maine Man dropped Cruz, Juan
04/21 Maine Man added Walker, Jamie
04/21 Maine Man dropped Delcarmen, Manny
04/21 Maine Man added Borkowski, Dave
04/21 Maine Man dropped Francisco, Frank
04/21 Maine Man added Hennessey, Brad
04/21 Maine Man dropped Marmol, Carlos
04/21 Maine Man added Mendoza, Luis
04/21 Maine Man dropped Romo, Sergio
04/21 Maine Man added Gobble, Jimmy
04/21 Maine Man dropped Soria, Joakim
04/21 Maine Man added Boggs, Mitchell
04/21 Maine Man dropped Wakefield, Tim
04/21 Maine Man added Kennedy, Ian
04/21 Maine Man dropped Wang, Chien-Ming
04/21 Maine Man added Tucker, Ryan
04/21 Maine Man dropped Scherzer, Max
04/21 Maine Man added Trachsel, Steve
04/21 Maine Man dropped Maholm, Paul
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Postby RICHARDMILTER » Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:20 pm

This is my worst fear(regarding TSN STRAT) realized. I would be mad as hell if I was in your league. Be suspicious, very suspicious of the managers who are benefiting! In fact you should probably post a link to the league, and also post the managers names who are involved in tanking and the guys benefiting from the tanking. I would also immediately send an e-mail to Bernie or someone at TSN. This kind of thing can not be tolerated, or else live draft leagues will disappear! I feel bad for you, but do all you can to not let them get away with it. I have long suspected a very small percentage of TSN Strat GMs illegally buying and running two teams for the purpose of one of their teams being like a farm team, for their other team. Some have said that this is not happening because it does not make financial sense to purchase two teams(under two names) just to win two credits. But with certain cheaters it is not about the money it is about their ego, and creating an unfair advantage so they may win, and boost their egos. Please keep us posted!
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Postby LoopsandRolls » Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:47 pm

here is the first team to benefit - picking up Soria, Manny and McCann - this for a team that was already leading its division.

http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/stratomatic/team/team_other.html?user_id=183988

here is the team that tanked:

http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/stratomatic/team/team_other.html?user_id=183360

The second team manager has offered to undo the pick-ups if the other teams will, so I'll not post his link.

And I am angry, I love playing the game, and I really enjoy live drafts and trading.
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Postby coyote303 » Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:47 pm

I know of a manager who has gutted more than one team in a salary cap league just because he's (in my opinion) a jerk. I don't know if he was trying to see how badly he could do if he tried, or if he was just being a bad sport because his team was doing poorly.

There is a very real chance there is collusion going on in this case, but it's also possible the tanking manager is just being an immature jerk.

Please report this if you haven't already. Managers like this have no place in the TSN SOM world with or without collusion.

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Postby LoopsandRolls » Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:14 pm

The players picked up by the Litz Lightening have been returned. I do believe any evil was intended by the parties picking up free agents.
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Postby RICHARDMILTER » Sat Apr 25, 2009 2:17 pm

Collusion, tanking, having two teams, all of those things are CHEATING, pure and simple. The parties involved do not have to be ,"Evil" to be cheaters. Everyone wants to win. And some people will cross lines to get that done(See Bill Belichek, or Belicheat). You did the right thing to bring this out into the light. Sunshine is the best disinfectant!
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