Lineup Help

Lineup Help

Postby Rally Sally » Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:34 pm

I'm looking for some help from the peanut gallery on how to put this lineup together. This team is an experiment (minimal errors) so the position players can't be changed.

Vs. Right

C Mike Redmond
1B Casey Kotchman
2B Placido Polanco
3B Craig Counsell
SS John McDonald
LF Norris Hopper
CF Ichiro Suzuki
RF Maggilo Ordonez
DH Hanley Ramirez

Vs. Left

C Mike Redmond
1B Casey Kotchman
2B Placido Polanco
3B Jeff Cirillo
SS John McDonald
LF Norris Hopper
CF Ichiro Suzuki
RF Maggilo Ordonez
DH Hanley Ramirez

Any thoughts? Here's the team link:
http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/stratomatic/team/team_other.html?user_id=135689
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Postby J-Pav » Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:12 pm

[b:18cb9d95b4]RS:[/b:18cb9d95b4]

Try this vs. RHP:

1. Polanco
2. Ordonez
3. Hopper
4. H. Ramirez
5. Suzuki
6. Redmond
7. Kotchman
8. McDonald
9. Counsell

Try this vs. LHP:

1. Ordonez
2. H. Ramirez
3. Suzuki
4. Hopper
5. Redmond
6. McDonald
7. Polanco
8. Cirillo
9. Kotchman

The lineup analyzer says this lineup "vs. RHP" is good for just over five runs per game (that's low, maybe too low); "vs. lhp" it's 7.21 (that's high, maybe too high).

Recommendations:

Your pitching is excellent, with the exceptions of overspending on Hampson and Casilla. I would drop a dollar or more off of each of them.

You might consider upgrading either Redmond, Counsell or McDonald. Three guys who cannot hit RHP may be too many. Upgrade one of those "vs. RHP" bats by [b:18cb9d95b4]adding lots of OBP[/b:18cb9d95b4] (even at the expense of a "vs. LHP" bat). An example might be Ruiz and Ojeda for Redmond and Counsell (although I realize Ruiz is likely already gone).

Don't go too crazy on the error thing - you can maintain the concept without being TOO rigid. Fix the "vs. RHP" bat thing (adding another lefty stick would help your balance, too) and you will be okay.

My zero point zero two.

GL,

[b:18cb9d95b4]J[/b:18cb9d95b4]

FWIW: I'm not going to second guess the analyzer (you probably want the optimal lineup), but I would bat Ordonez fourth and spread out the lefty bats to keep two righties between them.

Remember: lineup analysis is basically useless as long as you bat your top hitters one thru five (generally, top obp first, top slg or OPS goes fourth).

See my "[b:18cb9d95b4]The Secret Formula 2008[/b:18cb9d95b4]" post in the next couple of days for more info.
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Analyzer?

Postby edub1969 » Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:41 pm

[quote:12488793c1="J-Pav"][b:12488793c1]RS:[/b:12488793c1]

The lineup analyzer says this lineup "vs. RHP" is good for just over five runs per game (that's low, maybe too low); "vs. lhp" it's 7.21 (that's high, maybe too high).


See my "[b:12488793c1]The Secret Formula 2008[/b:12488793c1]" post in the next couple of days for more info.[/quote:12488793c1]

J-Pav, is the "analyzer" from the computer game? Thanks! I'll be looking forward to your post as well!
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Postby Palmtana » Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:46 pm

This is probably the analyzer J-Pav used.

http://www.baseballmusings.com/cgi-bin/LineupAnalysis.py
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Postby Delbird » Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:16 pm

Palmtana, I can't seem to get that link to work. There is a lineup EVALUATOR in the CD-ROM game that reads like it runs a simulation on 15000 games to find your best lineup, but I haven't been able to get it to work.
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Postby Palmtana » Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:25 pm

[quote:096dae400c="Delbird"]Palmtana, I can't seem to get that link to work.[/quote:096dae400c]

Your computer has to be able to open [i:096dae400c]py[/i:096dae400c] files.

You could try this:

http://www.liutilities.com/products/winbackup/filextlibrary/files/PY/
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Postby J-Pav » Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:05 pm

[b:f35431c77d]Palmtana[/b:f35431c77d]:

Thank you, yes, that is what I was referring to.

[b:f35431c77d]Delbird[/b:f35431c77d]:

When I get around to it, I'll probably need to ask you more about the CD-ROM analyzer thing. I shelved the CD-ROM game after giving it up in frustration trying to run sims. Now I have to go dig it out from wherever it's buried.

Look for [b:f35431c77d]The Secret Formula 2008[/b:f35431c77d] post on Monday (after my "Theory in Action" team has started).

:D
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Thanks!

Postby edub1969 » Sat Nov 08, 2008 6:15 pm

Thanks to all, appreciate the help!
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Postby Rally Sally » Sat Nov 08, 2008 11:24 pm

It turns out that Carlos Ruiz became available, so now I have a catching platoon of Ruiz and Damian Miller. The lineup analyzer is interesting, but I doesn't factor in speed...

Anyways, thanks for your input!
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Postby RICHARDMILTER » Sat Nov 08, 2008 11:59 pm

Good point about the speed!
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