First impressions
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by GARYREININGER » Wed Mar 04, 2009 11:22 pm
You know a card has a special quality when you look at it and just stare blankly
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by RICHARDMILTER » Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:21 pm
It is the most wonderful time of the year. I can get through my crummy work day knowing I can come home and stare blankly at the cards(on-line and the actual card board cards), and memorize every number.
Two people made great points;
1. Lots of good injury(risk) cards
2. Tons of platoon options.
Who will be the very first GM/Coach to win a title?
Two people made great points;
1. Lots of good injury(risk) cards
2. Tons of platoon options.
Who will be the very first GM/Coach to win a title?
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by geekor » Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:32 pm
[quote:6c9d78eb32="rmilter"]It is the most wonderful time of the year. I can get through my crummy work day knowing I can come home and stare blankly at the cards(on-line and the actual card board cards), and memorize every number.
Two people made great points;
1. Lots of good injury(risk) cards
2. Tons of platoon options.
Who will be the very first GM/Coach to win a title?[/quote:6c9d78eb32]
The sad part is it looks like EVERYONE will be forced to do this as the prices overall are too high. Looking around my first league and everyone has some major holes that there just isn't $$ to fix. It seems like they priced the players for a 90 mil league to bend to the 100 mil crowd a little more.
Two people made great points;
1. Lots of good injury(risk) cards
2. Tons of platoon options.
Who will be the very first GM/Coach to win a title?[/quote:6c9d78eb32]
The sad part is it looks like EVERYONE will be forced to do this as the prices overall are too high. Looking around my first league and everyone has some major holes that there just isn't $$ to fix. It seems like they priced the players for a 90 mil league to bend to the 100 mil crowd a little more.
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by KEVINEHLE » Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:30 pm
[quote:55ead7f7d7="geekor"][quote:55ead7f7d7="rmilter"]It is the most wonderful time of the year. I can get through my crummy work day knowing I can come home and stare blankly at the cards(on-line and the actual card board cards), and memorize every number.
Two people made great points;
1. Lots of good injury(risk) cards
2. Tons of platoon options.
Who will be the very first GM/Coach to win a title?[/quote:55ead7f7d7]
The sad part is it looks like EVERYONE will be forced to do this as the prices overall are too high. Looking around my first league and everyone has some major holes that there just isn't $$ to fix. It seems like they priced the players for a 90 mil league to bend to the 100 mil crowd a little more.[/quote:55ead7f7d7]
I was thinking the same thing. I am suggesting that my buddies bump up the standard league to be $100M for the 2008 game. It seems like a more comfortable salary for this player set.
Kev
Two people made great points;
1. Lots of good injury(risk) cards
2. Tons of platoon options.
Who will be the very first GM/Coach to win a title?[/quote:55ead7f7d7]
The sad part is it looks like EVERYONE will be forced to do this as the prices overall are too high. Looking around my first league and everyone has some major holes that there just isn't $$ to fix. It seems like they priced the players for a 90 mil league to bend to the 100 mil crowd a little more.[/quote:55ead7f7d7]
I was thinking the same thing. I am suggesting that my buddies bump up the standard league to be $100M for the 2008 game. It seems like a more comfortable salary for this player set.
Kev
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by RICHARDMILTER » Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:32 pm
I think you make a GREAT point! For instance checkout Michael Young. His hitting has fallen off, yet he is more than 2 million dollars more than last year. I realize he is now a 2 at SS instead off a 3, but is that fact alone worth more than 2.5 million? Especially with his BA. and OBP. way down!
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by childsmwc » Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:55 pm
On the question of Michael Young, yes the difference between a 2e12 and a 3e21 at SS is a huge difference. Plus Michael Young's 2008 card is not much worse offensively in 2008. His 2008 card is better against Left handers, overall the OBP for the two cards is almost identical, so the 2007 version simply has a few more TB chances, but a much worse defense.
In regards to the question that pricing has gone up in 2008, I would challenge you instead that pricing remained constant and that offense in the major leagues got worse in 2008. I think if you compare cummulative price totals for the top 20, 40, 50 hitters etc. in 2008 vs 2007, these totals will be fairly close, so the equivilant salary is going to the same players, its just that in 2008 those players don't produce as much offensively.
The flip side to this is that pitchers pricing is cheaper compared to last season. All of this dynamics is a function of the game of baseball changing from year to year, and the strat game reflects this. Comparatively the salary pools are the same from year to year in strat, but the underlying value associated with a run, changes as a result of the card set being used.
Bbrool
In regards to the question that pricing has gone up in 2008, I would challenge you instead that pricing remained constant and that offense in the major leagues got worse in 2008. I think if you compare cummulative price totals for the top 20, 40, 50 hitters etc. in 2008 vs 2007, these totals will be fairly close, so the equivilant salary is going to the same players, its just that in 2008 those players don't produce as much offensively.
The flip side to this is that pitchers pricing is cheaper compared to last season. All of this dynamics is a function of the game of baseball changing from year to year, and the strat game reflects this. Comparatively the salary pools are the same from year to year in strat, but the underlying value associated with a run, changes as a result of the card set being used.
Bbrool
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by childsmwc » Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:56 pm
The game has always been priced for the $80 million default environment. There are no fundamental changes in the salary structure if you compare 2008 to 2007.
One final thought. Once you attached price tags to the cards and give everyone salary caps to work in, the online game of strat has now incorporated economics into the mix and supply and demand principles apply.
Two cards could have exactly the same Runs Created values, yet if you put one player in 1969 he might be an all star, yet in 2008 nothing more than a reserve, because of the market environment within which they perform. The supply of runs is much greater in 2008 than 1969 making a run more valuable in that context.
2008 versus 2007 is similar, although not to the same extent. There were less runs in 2008 versus 2007, thus a run is worth more in 2008.
Bbrool
One final thought. Once you attached price tags to the cards and give everyone salary caps to work in, the online game of strat has now incorporated economics into the mix and supply and demand principles apply.
Two cards could have exactly the same Runs Created values, yet if you put one player in 1969 he might be an all star, yet in 2008 nothing more than a reserve, because of the market environment within which they perform. The supply of runs is much greater in 2008 than 1969 making a run more valuable in that context.
2008 versus 2007 is similar, although not to the same extent. There were less runs in 2008 versus 2007, thus a run is worth more in 2008.
Bbrool
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