Need 2 More for an Auction... 2007 style!

[MEAT]

bump
just need 4 more owners....

[CATom]

B U M P :)

[MEAT]

1) Coffee
2) Terry101
3) litangel
4) he's meat
5) geekor
6) AF Dickie
7) CATom
8)
9)
10)
11)
12) ArrylT

[FoggyOne]

1) Coffee
2) Terry101
3) litangel
4) he's meat
5) geekor
6) AF Dickie
7) CATom
8) FoggyOne/Wockenfuss (but waivering without auction site)
9)
10)
11)
12) ArrylT

[HizzyForShizzy]

1) Coffee
2) Terry101
3) litangel
4) he's meat
5) geekor
6) AF Dickie
7) CATom
8) FoggyOne/Wockenfuss (but waivering without auction site)
9) Hizzy4Shizzy
10)
11)
12) ArrylT

I was in the first one. I don't forsee any hurricanes wiping out my city's electricity for a week this time.

[MEAT]

coffee, can you add a headline to the banner that we just need TWO, before foggy's feet get any chillier....

[Coffeeholic]

Got'cha Meat!

1) Coffee
2) Terry101
3) litangel
4) he's meat
5) geekor
6) AF Dickie
7) CATom
8) FoggyOne/Wockenfuss (but waivering without auction site)
9) Hizzy4Shizzy
10)
11)
12) ArrylT


Alright... just need 2 now. This should really be a great way to kill off the reamiander of the 2007 season while we await 2008!

Nice to see that we've got some experience with running an auction on the boards. Let's see if we can knock of the format for this baby.

[Coffeeholic]

This is open for discussion of course, but we should get somethings down in writing. WIth [b:f706186627]ArrrylT[/b:f706186627], [b:f706186627]Geekor[/b:f706186627], [b:f706186627]Hizzy[/b:f706186627] and others who have done this before on hand, we should definetly go with whatever suggestions they mighty have

A) $160 mil in bidding money to field a standard $80 mil DH team.

B) 12 or 24 hour clock? Although I agree that a 12 hour clock may save us some time, I don't think that the amount of time saved would be enough to justify getting away from the ease and convenience of going with a 24 hour clock. Hence, I'd have to vote for a 24 hour window to win a bid.

C) Maximum players and stadiums you can bid on and/or win. [b:f706186627]Geekor[/b:f706186627], I appreciate your feelings about this issue, but I have to be honest here. My least favorite thing about auctions is that by managers controlling more than 25 players, this effectively blocks any in season moves, relegating the season to one of watching and hoping. So I was going to propose that after the season begins, all players revert to an "uncontrolled" status. However, perhaps we can come to some sort of compromise? Can we agree on a max of 2 stadiums as the limit?

D) Opening bids on players or staidums to be $0.3mil (auction money). Raises in bids have to be at least 10% higher than the existing bid ... rounding up to the nearest $0.10mil. In other words, If a current bid on a player is $3mil, you'd have to raise that to $3.3mil. A bid of $3.3mil would have to be raised to $3.7mil, etc, etc... We'll all have to keep a calculator close by and make sure that we do not exceed our $160mil in bidding money.

E) Absolutely [b:f706186627]NO[/b:f706186627] communication regarding bids, players, trades, etc. during the auction!

F) A manager must "open" 2 new players each 24 hours (or every 12 hours if we go that way) before he/she can "up" a bid on an alkeady open player. Once a manager has won enough players to fill out a legitimate draft card, the requirement of opening 2 new players before "upping" a bid is dropped.

G) Whatever time frame we agree on, let's use the clock from these message boards as the standard we go by. In other words, if your bid was posted (per the post) on Monday at 10:15am, then it will expire on Tuesday at 10:15am (per the posts). It does take a little time to make a post ("copy", "paste", edit, post), so unlike Penns site which had an absolute on timing issues, I think it would be a good idea to have a 15 or 30 minute window to exclude bids. This would mean that the "last second" upping of a bid ("sniping") would have to be done 15 - 30 minutes before the actual bid expires. ????

H) However many different threads we want to use, I think it importatnt to have a "Official Bid Thread" where all bids are placed in chronlogical order. Those bids ending soonest will be athe top of the thread, those ending last at the bottom. This will allow us to quickly check on which players are almost gone and will act as the "hammer going down" on a bid. We can have additional threads to show players by postions and perhaps also one showing manager bids, players won, auction $ spent, etc.

I) I think it important to note that however detailed we are with the format and rules before hand, there are bound to be issues which crop up during the auction. Thus, I think it very important that we all agree ahead of time that we won't be "rules lawyers", but that we'll approach this on a gentlemanly basis and remember to keep in the spirit of things (friendly competition among those of us who'd like to try an auction). If we get the bugs worked out the first time around, runiing a second or succeeding auctions should be that much easier!

J) I know I must be missing some things. What else do we have to have in place before we get started?

[ArrylT]

(A) Agree

(B) Obviously my vote is for 24 hour window

(C) How about a max of 40 players to match MLB Farm Roster Size? I would also recommend a min of 30 players purchased as that should ensure an owner can field a team according to TSN Requirements without having to worry about his 25th player having to be a RP or a C or whatever.

(D) Fair enough

(E) How about 1 new bid per day rather than 2 - if there is going to be a Max Roster size, you do not want to win a bid you opened just to be able to up other bids, and then not be able to win that player due to the bid you opened being the player that takes the last spot. I think some owners would be steamed if they opened a Brian Anderson and then bid on Vladimir Guerrero and could not win Vladdy due to max roster limits.

Or better yet, once you own a certain # of players - you do not need to open new bids ...

(F) How about 30min for those that had yet to place a bid on that player, but otherwise any limitations on when you can place a bid changes it from being a 24 hour clock to a 23 & 1/2 hour clock etcetera ...

(G) Makes sense ...

[geekor]

160 mil in auction money is standard, as is winning only 2 stadiums.

As I said earlier, just like AT suggested, just increase the maximum won, 33 was too low as everyone ends up with a few players they don't want, but they don't want other to have for super cheap.

Other than that the only other thing is the players opened per day. Only opening 2 will make it last longer. On the plus side, less players to keep track of. It used to be 4 I believe that had to be opened per day before you could bid, perhaps split the difference to 3? Oh and yea, assuming you have won (or have current winning bids) on 25 (or maybe 20?) players or more you don't have to open any more bids before bidding on new players.