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Last night in a 1969 league, Felix Millan (1e17) surrendered a a single off the fielding chart. How is this possible?

** TOP OF INNING 8 ***
0 R.Staub 5 Single (CF) b-1
SUBSTITUTE PH- Julio Gotay
0 1 J.Gotay 6 Fly Out (LF) b-0
1 1 G.Beckert 6 Fly Out (LF) b-0
2 1 J.Moses 3 Single (2B) 1-2 b-1 gb(2B)x
2 12 R.Smith 2 Fly Out (CF) b-0
*** BOTTOM OF INNING 8 ***

http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/baseball/stratomatic/1969/league/boxscore.html?group_id=7261&g_id=33

I was under the impression that "1" second basemen did not allow singles off the fielding chart.

if they were holding staub. i believe he could become a 2.

23.83 When an infielder is responsible for holding a runner and a gb()X is hit to him, add 1 to that fielder's range rating. Example: With a runner held at first and a lefthanded hitter at the plate, a shortstop rated 2e20 becomes 3e20. The maximum range rating is 5.

Moses is a RH hitter, thus the 1 fielder becomes a 2 and the single is valid.

Staub does not have a * stealing rating: why would he be held?

A star only means he automatically gets his good lead if he's not held. It still behooves you in many cases to hold runners on that don't have stars. It lowers the first success steal rating by 2 and the second success steal rating by 4. It also makes a 10% difference in runners taking an extra base on doubles and singles with no stars (add 1 to running rating when not held; subtract 1 from running rating when held).

Thanks for the replies so far. Am I correct that HAL makes the decision about holding runners on when they do not have a * stealing ratings? If so, I can't figure out why HAL would hold Staub [5/11, (13-5)] against a lefty (-2) (catcher 0) with two outs in the 8th in a 5-1 game. The odds of him getting a good lead are very small and even then he would only have a 1-11 chance (55%). Doesn't HAL understand ITSELF? (Meaning that it ought to know that runners won't steal under those conditions). HAL can't possibly hold on the basis of the runner going from first to third on a single in this scenario because Staub is only a 1-10 runner. If HAL held the runner under these conditions, he would have to hold virtually every runner that ever reached base because virtually EVERYTHING is against Staub stealing in these conditions.

Can't help you on that one.. :D

I never scour over the box scores...I glance and move on. I think I've added a few more years back onto my life since I started this practice. :lol:

AF D has a good point there; I only wish I had started that practice earlier myself.....