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Trying to understand HAL's bullpen logic

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 4:22 pm
by visick
Last night, 1st game of the series...

*** TOP OF INNING 9 ***
SUBSTITUTE PH- Trot Nixon
0 T.Nixon 4 Walk b-1
0 1 B.Abreu 3 Pop Out (2B) b-0 bpSI 1-14
1 1 C.Crisp 4 Walk 1-2 b-1
1 12 D.Wright 5 Fly Out (LF) b-0 bpHR 1-6
2 12 R.Howard 1 HBP 2-3 1-2 b-1
2 123 M.Ramirez 3 Double (CF) 3-H 2-H 1-3 b-2
SUBSTITUTE P - Francisco Rodriguez
2 23 B.Phillips 4 Triple (CF) 3-H 2-H b-3
2 3 A.Laroche 6 Home Run (RF) 3-H b-H bpHR 1-6
2 K.Greene 6 Fly Out (CF) b-0


Heath Bell is pitching. He entered the game in the 6th. inning, striking out Crisp to end the inning. He strikes out the side in the 7th AND the 8th.

Bell: Avoid before the 6th, slow hook, IBB less. Setup both ways.

FRod: Avoid before the 8th, IBB less, slow hook. Close both ways.

Rodney. Moehler and Schoeneweiss are in the pen, fully rested.



[b:3f215a8183][size=18:3f215a8183]Why is Bell still in the game after walking Nixon AND Crisp[/size:3f215a8183][size=18:3f215a8183]?[/size:3f215a8183][/b:3f215a8183]

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 4:37 pm
by LANCEBOUSLEY
what is the score?

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 5:28 pm
by visick
Heading into the 9th, I'm ahead 8-4.

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 5:58 pm
by LANCEBOUSLEY
with striking out the side he's not fatigued and it is not a closer situation as yet.

that's my take. why he is in after the HBP i don't know.

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 6:28 pm
by geekor
because Bell fatigues is better than FRod fresh :P

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 6:57 pm
by visick
That's a personal opinion, which I belive as well.

But, HAL is not a person. Bell should be at his fatigue point no?

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 7:33 pm
by durantjerry
Does a HBP enter into fatigue, or just hits and walks?

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 8:11 pm
by Sykes25
[quote:0a7c2530a3="akindian"]with striking out the side he's not fatigued and it is not a closer situation as yet.

that's my take. why he is in after the HBP i don't know.[/quote:0a7c2530a3]

HBP does not count towards fatigue. It's Manny's double that activated his fatigue.

Fatigue occurs after his R2 expired AND he has not triggered 3 walks/hits in the same inning or 2 walks/hits in consecutive innings.

PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 11:08 am
by visick
:evil: :evil: