Defesne ratings

Defesne ratings

Postby PAULMINICUCCI » Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:08 pm

There is probably a post on this and if so I can go find it if someone points it out. Here's the question. Exactly how much better is a 2nd basemen who has a 1 rating versus a 2 versus a 3? Or ss or any position for that matter. Is there a formula? I saw the interesting posts on Pierre and cf with a +2 arm but haven't seen an analysis of infielders. I realize it varies by pitchers in that a lot of very good picthers have a lot of gb(x) plays on their cards and so I guess it varies. Any help would be very much appreciated. I guess I am wondering if players are similar in offense output, how much more does an upgrade of 1 fielder's rating like from a 2 to a 1 let's say really cost.
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Postby JOELKING » Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:04 pm

[b:1789090369]shortstop - fielding rating is king [/b:1789090369]
1ss34 = 2e7, better than any other rating
1ss54 = 2ss29 = 3ss4, better than any other rating
1ss84 = 2ss60 = 3ss38 = 4ss10, better than any other rating

[b:1789090369]second base - fielding rating is dominant, each step in fielding rating is worth ~ 15 in error rating; slightly more as the fielding rating gets worse [/b:1789090369]
1e20 = 2e4 which is better than any 3 or 4
1e27 = 2e12 which is better than any 3 or 4
1e36 = 2e20 = 3e4 which is better than any 4
1e47 = 2e33 = 3e17 which is better than any 4
1e61 = 2e47 = 3e32 = 4e15
1e71 = 2e58 = 3e43 = 4e27


hope that helps
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Postby cummings2 » Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:43 pm

to the best of my knowledge every pitcher has the same statistical chances of challenging every defensive position. Even though 2Bx differs in some cards the odds add to the same.

There is a link in the 3B defense thread that you might find useful in comparing different defensive and errors rating.
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rephrase the question

Postby PAULMINICUCCI » Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:38 pm

I want to thank my friends for the comments. I didn't phrase my question correctly. I have the error-to position rating chart. What i was asking is let's suppose for every two hundred ground-ball chances how much more likely is it that a 1 will get to a ball and make a play versus a 2 who may not and the play is a single? Put another way, let's suppose I have a 1 at ss, a 1 at second base, how many fewer base-runners over the course of a season might I expect than if I had 2's at the same positions irrespective of errors ( i.e. not counting errors). So if there is a gb(ss)x play how does the rating of the shortstop in this case affect the outcome?

Another way to look at it might be, in general ovber the course of 162 games how many runs might you expect to be saved if there are all 1's at the infield positions as opposed to all 2's?
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