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How does this happen?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:26 am
by apolivka
*** BOTTOM OF INNING 8 ***
SUBSTITUTE P - Willie Hernandez
0 L.McCullers 6 Strike Out b-0
1 C.Brown 6 Double (CF) b-2
1 2 D.Pasqua 3 Strike Out b-0
2 2 J.Barfield 5 Single (LF) 2-3 b-1
2 1 3 G.Bell 2 Single (2B) 3-H 1-3 b-1 gb(2B)x
2 1 3 B.Santiago 4 Pop Out (SS) b-0

So, 2 outs, bottom of the 8th last night, men at 1st and 3rd. gb(2B)x is rolled. My second baseman, Bill Doran, is a 1e24 and George "Taco" Bell ends up with a Single? The infield can't be in with 2 outs and there was nobody for Doran to hold on 2nd base. I thought this was impossible?

I assume there must something new on the super advanced fielding chart that allows for this?

FWIW, it was a meaningless run in a game I pretty much already lost, so I'm not really upset at the outcome, just curious.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:36 am
by LANCEBOUSLEY
is barfield a * runner? if so he was probably held, which would turn doran into a 2 fielder.

the only way a 1 gives up a hit is on a rare play or by being turned into a 2 via a runner being held.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:59 am
by apolivka
Runners were at 1st and 3rd, so Doran wasn't holding anyone, so he should still be a 1, right?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:56 pm
by coyote303
[quote:40dca3f283="apolivka"]Runners were at 1st and 3rd, so Doran wasn't holding anyone, so he should still be a 1, right?[/quote:40dca3f283]

I believe it works like this:

With a right-handed batter up, the second basebaseman and first baseman increase their range by 1. (A 1 becomes a 2 fielder).

With a left-handed batter up, the shortstop and firstbaseman increase their range by 1.

Coyote