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Upon recommendation of 1 of the better, make that best, GMs-Mgrs here, Geoff Brookes, I set 3 of my poorer SPs to BOTH "quick hook" & "max 6 inngs".

I also have a great, very deep pen starting w/ $6.8M setup man San Diego Padre[u:f34db212d2][b:f34db212d2] Mike Adams[/b:f34db212d2][/u:f34db212d2]. [b:f34db212d2]All my RPs have ERAs of 2 or less![/b:f34db212d2]So whats does Hal do...nothing, he pays no heed to my mgr's instructions.

EX: S7* James Shields: last 3 starts: 7.2...8 IP...and 8.2 ! Go figure.

Why do you think this is? Weigh in w/ your opinion.

I thought SOM-Tsn was supposed to be so damn realistic?!

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Hmmm, this seem _very_ unusual/unlikely. I've seen HAL pull pitchers with no hitters going after 6 innings because the manager selected "max 6 innings". That setting is rock solid reliable in my experience.

The "quick hook" thing only matters if your pitcher starts giving up hits/walks/runs. Pitcher will stay in games longer if they are doing well. Generally, it's kinda what you want--let him face batters until he gets in trouble and then yank him.

How is your general bullpen strategy set? If I had Adams and a good supporting cast in the pen and a bunch of cheap starters, I would go Aggressive. With a good deep pen, I've gotten 550+ innings out of my bullpen.

I have [i:7c860e6742]never [/i:7c860e6742]seen the max innings setting fail either.

Does the pitcher's preferences page accurately show your settings? I'm wondering if you possibly navigated away from the page or something before the "save changes" button took hold.

You don't say whether you use "don't relieve before," which trumps "max innings." I found this out after getting swept in the first series of the season of an all-bullpen no-starters team where all the starters were quick hook and 6 innings max, but were set to don't relieve before F9. Never again!

As in the Majors, pitching is the most frustrating, unpredictable facet of SOM sim and the oft-ham-fisted Hal.

To that extent, Hal is true to life.

But the pitching settings, even after the refinements, produce game decisions that far too often bear little resemblance to the manager's settings.

I feel your pain, but the one excellent recommendation here is to go "aggressive" with your bullpen settings. That can't help but help.

[quote:fe6baecdfa="wachovia07"] You don't say whether you use "don't relieve before," which trumps "max innings." I found this out after getting swept in the first series of the season of an all-bullpen no-starters team where all the starters were quick hook and 6 innings max, but were set to don't relieve before F9. Never again![/quote:fe6baecdfa]

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Right on "wachovia" THX. But there is no F9!

I had most SPs set to F7 or F8 (Freddie Garcia) so I adjusted some to F6.

And yes w/ my great pen I did have "pen" set to [b:fe6baecdfa]"AGG"[/b:fe6baecdfa] esp on road!

Irony is, at least at home, at LH HR Oak Col, I move pen to "Normal" b/c I just upgraded from 3 pretty inexpensive SPs to: $4.7M Kershaw...$5.7M Verlander &
$4M Randy Wells.

My pen ERA is awesome like I said under 2!

Even w/ the SP upgrades maybe I should set it back to "AGG" & keep it there?

Czar, you need to remove the "don't remove before" settings for any pitcher you want to give a "max IP" settings. "Don't remove before F6" means that pitcher will not be removed UNLESS he is at F6 or below, no matter what inning that's in. He also won't automatically be removed at F6.

That's what I meant by "trumps" -- I was surprised to find that even with the highest F-rating (9 or 8 or whatever it is), the don't-relieve command trumped the max innings command. So you have to leave don't-relieve blank, or max innings becomes literally meaningless -- doesn't matter if it's F8 or F1. Leave it blank, or your worst starter could go 9 and give up 6 runs while the bullpen sits there wasting $$.

I [u:ca4c37fe3f]never [/u:ca4c37fe3f]use the "don't relieve before" settings.