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1 Range at SS

PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:05 am
by mbertolli
I thought a defensive player with a rating of 1 could not give up a hit on a
gb(ss)x roll.

I have a 1 at ss but gave up a single to Berkman on a gb(ss)x roll....

*** TOP OF INNING 1 ***
0 M.Mora 2-8 Single (RF) b-1 F9
0 1 L.Berkman 6-9 Single (SS) 1-2 b-1 gb(SS)x F9
0 12 J.Hamilton 6-9 Ground Out (SS) Double Play 2-3 1-o b-0 gb(SS)x F9
2 3 C.Crawford 2-7 Single (RF) 3-H b-1 F9
2 1 Stolen Base 1-2 F9
2 2 Caught Stealing 2-o F9

PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:48 am
by Knerrpool
It might have something to do with a runner being on first, so that changes the normal gb(x) result. I think there might have been a thread about this back a few months ago.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:33 am
by RICHARDMILTER
Or if the infield is in a 1 can become a 2 and give up a hit.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:27 am
by pkwmati
[quote:fcc0b3913b="Knerrpool"]It might have something to do with a runner being on first, so that changes the normal gb(x) result. I think there might have been a thread about this back a few months ago.[/quote:fcc0b3913b]

According to the Super Advanced X-Chart for the board game, when a fielder is holding a runner on (and there is a chart for which fielders are holding runners based on the base the runner is on and the hitter is R/L) there are gb rolls that become singles.

If memory serves, a 1-4 on the d20 for a 1 rated infielder becomes a single if that infielder is holding the runner.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:54 am
by mbertolli
Why would the SS be holding the runner on first?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:07 pm
by keyzick
[quote:902f017755="mbertolli"]Why would the SS be holding the runner on first?[/quote:902f017755]

LOL!! I think the rating change from a 1 is only on "infield in" and "hit and run" situations (I'm not entirely sure on the hit and run though)...although it can be affected if SS holding runner on 2nd

PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:49 pm
by apolivka
Your infield could be in expecting Berkman to Bunt--an all to common HAL strategy. In high offense leagues, I usually set my team strategy to NOT put the infield in before the 5th inning. How is yours set?

Mora is not a * type base stealer (at least in the 2010 set) , so I don't _think_ he is usually held.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:42 pm
by mbertolli
Infield In is set to 3rd inning. Im stumped.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:35 pm
by pkwmati
[quote:3acebed3df="mbertolli"]Why would the SS be holding the runner on first?[/quote:3acebed3df]

The SS or 2b (depending on the R/L of the hitter) has to cover 2nd base if there is a steal attempt.

I was going to break out the board tonight while the Indians game was on, so I'll jot down the info regarding holding runners and the effect on defensive rating.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:50 pm
by pkwmati
Here is the wording from the Super Advanced Fielding Chart:

If a symbol is followed by a "#", then in the following two situations use the symbol "SI2" in place of the original symbol:

1. The infielder is positioned IN defensively.
2. The infielder is responsible for holding a runner on (see the Super Advanced Holding Runner Chart to determine which fielder is responsible for holding a runner on).

CHART:
Runner on 1st, LH hitter : 1b & ss
Runner on 1st, RH hitter : 1b & 2b

Runner on 2nd, LH hitter : ss
Runner on 2nd, RH hitter : 2b

Runner on 3rd : 3b