R2 Question
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:42 pmWhat determines if an RP is an R1 or an R2? Is it average lengh per outing or total innings pitched?
Any idea what Strat uses to decide?
Any idea what Strat uses to decide?
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:42 pmPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:29 pmA quick glance looks like its the former. Details to follow.
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:33 pmIP/G it is. I looked at 15 R1's and R2's from this years set. None of the R2's had a ratio of IP/G less than 1. Veras' was the lowest at 48IP/48G = 1.
With one exception, none of the R1's had a ratio higher than 1. Lewis had the highest at 36/37.1 = .97. The exception was Farnsworth. 64/60 = 1.06.
A couple of other tidbits I've discovered over the years: 29 2/3 innings are required for any pitcher to receive a card and with the rare exception (Tony Pena in this years set has an S6 with only 3 starts but he pitched 100 innings overall) starters need 4 GS's to get an S rating.
For you pre-card and keeper league drafters: Dana Eveland came into his last start for the Dodgers needing 5 2/3 to get a card. He lasted 5 2/3 exactly. 5 starts on the season. 1.15/3.03.
With one exception, none of the R1's had a ratio higher than 1. Lewis had the highest at 36/37.1 = .97. The exception was Farnsworth. 64/60 = 1.06.
A couple of other tidbits I've discovered over the years: 29 2/3 innings are required for any pitcher to receive a card and with the rare exception (Tony Pena in this years set has an S6 with only 3 starts but he pitched 100 innings overall) starters need 4 GS's to get an S rating.
For you pre-card and keeper league drafters: Dana Eveland came into his last start for the Dodgers needing 5 2/3 to get a card. He lasted 5 2/3 exactly. 5 starts on the season. 1.15/3.03.
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:02 pm[quote:77d32c90e4]29 2/3 innings are required for any pitcher to receive a card [/quote:77d32c90e4]Just to be picky, this is not a hard-and-fast rule. Joba Chamberlain got a card with 24 IP in 2007, and Francisco Rodriguez got one with a mere 5.2 IP in 2002.
Factors most likely include playoff performance (it would have been very difficult to simulate the '02 postseason without a K-Rod card); saves (you'd be more likely to get a card with them than without); and the number of other pitchers on the team that they could potentially card.
Factors most likely include playoff performance (it would have been very difficult to simulate the '02 postseason without a K-Rod card); saves (you'd be more likely to get a card with them than without); and the number of other pitchers on the team that they could potentially card.
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:12 pmMy post refers to the online game only.
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:04 pmAh, gotcha. Yeah, I can't imagine a card as good as Joba or K-Rod's that had <30 IP would be allowed in the game. Letting people use such a card for 100-150 IP in a season, which is not too difficult to get out of a reliever in SOM, would be pretty crazy. A crappy card might get in, though ;)
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:46 pmSo bottom line... If an RP has more IP than Apps its likely he will be an R2.
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:16 pm[quote:162222b701]IP/G it is. I looked at 15 R1's and R2's from this years set. None of the R2's had a ratio of IP/G less than 1. [/quote:162222b701]
So Kimbrel, Venters and O"Flaherty will be R2?
WOW!!
So Kimbrel, Venters and O"Flaherty will be R2?
WOW!!
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:31 pmNo, in fact it's quite possible that none of them will be an R2. Venters is the only one with a chance I think.
O'Flaherty - 78 G, 73 2/3 IP
Kimbrel - 79 G, 77 IP
Venters - 85 G, 88 IP
Three guys worth noting that should be getting R2 status:
Tyler Clippard 72 G, 88 1/3 IP
Jim Johnson 69 G, 91 IP
Greg Holland 46 G, 60 IP
Venters, Al Alburquerque (41 G, 43 1/3 IP) and Daniel Bard (70 G, 73 IP), as well as a few others have a shot, too.
O'Flaherty - 78 G, 73 2/3 IP
Kimbrel - 79 G, 77 IP
Venters - 85 G, 88 IP
Three guys worth noting that should be getting R2 status:
Tyler Clippard 72 G, 88 1/3 IP
Jim Johnson 69 G, 91 IP
Greg Holland 46 G, 60 IP
Venters, Al Alburquerque (41 G, 43 1/3 IP) and Daniel Bard (70 G, 73 IP), as well as a few others have a shot, too.
Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:18 am[quote:d9613224f1="AeroDave10"]No, in fact it's quite possible that none of them will be an R2. Venters is the only one with a chance I think.
O'Flaherty - 78 G, 73 2/3 IP
Kimbrel - 79 G, 77 IP
Venters - 85 G, 88 IP
Three guys worth noting that should be getting R2 status:
Tyler Clippard 72 G, 88 1/3 IP
Jim Johnson 69 G, 91 IP
Greg Holland 46 G, 60 IP
Venters, Al Alburquerque (41 G, 43 1/3 IP) and Daniel Bard (70 G, 73 IP), as well as a few others have a shot, too.[/quote:d9613224f1]
SHHH Dont give away all my draft targets! LOL
O'Flaherty - 78 G, 73 2/3 IP
Kimbrel - 79 G, 77 IP
Venters - 85 G, 88 IP
Three guys worth noting that should be getting R2 status:
Tyler Clippard 72 G, 88 1/3 IP
Jim Johnson 69 G, 91 IP
Greg Holland 46 G, 60 IP
Venters, Al Alburquerque (41 G, 43 1/3 IP) and Daniel Bard (70 G, 73 IP), as well as a few others have a shot, too.[/quote:d9613224f1]
SHHH Dont give away all my draft targets! LOL