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Hate to sound uninformed but I am.

Can anyone explain what a super reliever is? How does it(he) work into the strategy and what is the benefit to having one. Do they work better in certain situations and parks?

I do not pay much attention to the details of the game other than the obvious but maybe I should.

[b:acc6961658]misterpete[/b:acc6961658]:

The super reliever is a high dollar RP set to pitch the maximum number of innings by checking slow hook and inserting him into the setup vs L, setup vs R, close vs L and close vs R boxes in the older versions of SOM online.

By doing this you could get a $6 mil RP to pitch 250 innings (or about 1/5 of your total innings pitched) without incurring any kind of overuse penalty and putting up something like, say, a 1.75 ERA.

You're probably enjoying the wildly entertaining Petrosian/Weinberg threads on the matter now moved to the Bullpen.

There's an "ethical" disagreement about getting such unrealistic mileage out of an RP priced to pitch 50 innings. To some it borders on cheating, to others it's just the game within the game.

Thanks. Never tried it.

The closest I've come was to daft low price starters, set them on quick hook and go to a bullpen with high quality relievers. All I did was get the starch knocked out of me. Seems that when you draft low priced talent to start (except for a few) you're always giving up runs in the first 5 innings. And even with a good hitting team, you can't catch up.

Yes, I have read some of those P_W emails. Interesting.

[quote:fbe6c2d678="J-Pav"]
There's an "ethical" disagreement about getting such unrealistic mileage out of an RP priced to pitch 50 innings. To some it borders on cheating, to others it's just the game within the game.[/quote:fbe6c2d678]

Actually, I dont believe the pricing takes relievers IP into consideration. The only way it would make a difference would be if the IP count was high enough to avoid a 15 game injury, then he's be more expensive. Otherwise a 50IP reliever would be identically priced to a 100IP reliever with an identical card.

[quote:44c5c6b18f]Actually, I dont believe the pricing takes relievers IP into consideration. [/quote:44c5c6b18f]

The IP definitely affects pricing. Mike Adams (R1/C0) has a better card than King Felix (S7*), but Adams cost under $4M and Felix is over $9M. The difference in cost is purely related to the "estimated" number of innings each can pitch. If you can get Adams to pitch 250 innings you've essential squeezed $5M more in value out of him.

[quote:ec6d799e1d="hendrix08"][quote:ec6d799e1d]Actually, I dont believe the pricing takes relievers IP into consideration. [/quote:ec6d799e1d]

The IP definitely affects pricing. Mike Adams (R1/C0) has a better card than King Felix (S7*), but Adams cost under $4M and Felix is over $9M. The difference in cost is purely related to the "estimated" number of innings each can pitch. If you can get Adams to pitch 250 innings you've essential squeezed $5M more in value out of him.[/quote:ec6d799e1d]

that is 100%.

The amount of projected innings is definitely one the main factors in pricing. Which is why a S7 costs more than a S6. Of course groups (starters and relievers) are priced separately as well FYI