Bernie...you might want to check into this

Bernie...you might want to check into this

Postby the splinter » Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:45 am

Hungus's Nihilists of The Lake Eerie League keep playing with 2 second basemen on the field in the late innings. Thats what I said....2 second basemen. This the 4-5th time so far this season that this substitution has occurred. Doesn't seem fair ...how could anything ever get through the infield?

Check this out....

Nihilists AB R H RBI AVG Mongooses AB R H RBI AVG
G.Parra CF 3 0 0 0 .230 A.McCutchen CF 4 0 1 0 .287
M.Cuddyer RF 4 0 0 0 .269 J.Altuve 2B 5 0 1 0 .314
C.Jones 3B 3 0 0 0 .243 M.Montero C 5 0 1 0 .357
D.Ortiz DH 4 1 1 1 .270 T.Hafner DH 4 1 3 0 .295
A.Gordon LF 3 1 1 0 .360 E.Encarnacion 1B 4 0 1 0 .213
T.Helton 1B 4 1 1 2 .269 A.Callaspo 3B 3 0 0 0 .262
Y.Torrealba C 4 0 1 0 .250 B-C.Quentin PH 0 0 0 0 .277
M.Ellis 2B,2B 3 0 0 0 .242 C-J.Arencibia PR 0 0 0 0 .293
A-J.Herrera 2B 0 0 0 0 .263 D-J.Donald 3B 0 0 0 0 .200
A.Escobar SS 3 0 0 0 .177 V.Wells LF 4 1 1 1 .260
W.Venable RF 4 0 1 0 .230
A.Ramirez SS 4 0 1 1 .222


*** BOTTOM OF INNING 8 ***
SUBSTITUTE 2B- Mark Ellis
SUBSTITUTE 2B- Jonathan Herrera
0 M.Montero 6-7 Ground Out (2B) b-0 gb(2B)x F8
1 T.Hafner 4-9 Single (CF) b-1 F5
SUBSTITUTE P - Bobby Cassevah (role: RH Specialist)
1 1 E.Encarnacion 2-5 Single (LF) 1-2 b-1 F9
SUBSTITUTE P - John Axford
SUBSTITUTE PH- Carlos Quentin
1 12 C.Quentin 1-11 HBP 2-3 1-2 b-1 F9
SUBSTITUTE PR- J.P. Arencibia
C. Quentin Injured for 1 more game
1 123 V.Wells 5-8 Ground Out (2B) 3-H 2-3 1-2 b-0 gb(2B)x F9
2 23 W.Venable 3-5 Strike Out b-0 F9
*** TOP OF
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Postby pkwmati » Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:56 am

He isn't really playing two 2bs, its just one of those HAL quirks where excessive substitutions get made. Looks like Ellis came in at 2b and then immediately Herrera came in to replace him at 2b.

I had a game in an an 80s league years ago where someone was either injured of PHed for. The next inning HAL made about 15 moves shuffling all of my players into different positions and then back. HAL does this from time to time.
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Postby the splinter » Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:59 am

Ellis was lifted for a PH the inning before
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Postby KEVINEHLE » Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:31 am

Sounds just like Splinter.......the manager...... to try and sneak Ellis out there at 2B when he had been lifted the inning before. Does Splinter have no shame?

or of course it could be a programming error.

I prefer the Splinter sneakiness scenario because it's more fun.

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Postby the splinter » Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:42 am

great theory...however I am telling on myself here on the boards...kinda kills the sneaky thing
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Postby dharmabums » Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:46 am

unless, of course, you're doing the old double sneek on us. :P
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Postby LMBombers » Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:09 pm

I've only heard rumors of the double sneak and didn't even believe that it existed. Leave it to Splinter. :P
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SOM has a patch if TSN is using the new version

Postby ROBERTLATORRE » Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:15 pm

Which Bernie probably must to be to use the 2011 cards:


FIXED IN VERSION 2012G PATCH
......
3) Players were sometimes starting games at positions they were not rated
for even though other players who were rated for that position were available.
NOTE: It is impossible to completely eliminate this possibility as injuries
and player usage settings sometimes result in having no players available
at a given position. In those cases the code tries to substitute a player
who plays a similar position (for example, a second baseman for a short stop).
.....

Maybe this addresses it.
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