Changing the Autodraft

[macnole]

Valen,

You've just managed to argue against the primary reason you used for initiating this.

First it was to remove an element of inequity among vets and newbies, because of the knowledge advantage vets have on the drafting mechanics.

Now it's because it's all luck as it is now. [u:48bb0f9d56]All[/u:48bb0f9d56] luck? I respect what you're trying to do, but using extremes of false dichotomies doesn't gain any new converts to your idea.

It's not all luck; it's not all perfect; and it's also not all bad. No drafting system will be perfect because there are resource constraints--people want the same players.

By your way of thinking, every draft has to be equally disbursed...that is if you get Mays, well you cannot have Aaron and Brett...that wouldn't be "fair".

Sucking the fun right out of one element of the game that is a whole lot less frustrating than the dice rolls on any given night--and for that reason I'd rather have Bernie working on those other things.

just my 2c.

[nevdully's]

[quote:a79d76f540]By your way of thinking, every draft has to be equally disbursed...that is if you get Mays, well you cannot have Aaron and Brett...that wouldn't be "fair".

Sucking the fun right out of one element of the game that is a whole lot less frustrating than the dice rolls on any given night--and for that reason I'd rather have Bernie working on those other things.

just my 2c. [/quote:a79d76f540]

The whole post was right on, and I particularly like this.

My 2 pennies as well.

[wavygravy2k]

In the short term, a "do not draft list" might be all what's needed.

[macnole]

True.

[Valen]

[quote:1f6e39723d]First it was to remove an element of inequity among vets and newbies, because of the knowledge advantage vets have on the drafting mechanics. [/quote:1f6e39723d]
I never argued any such thing. Vets will always have an advantage over newbies no matter what the system. At no time has that been a motivation for my advocating an improvement.

[quote:1f6e39723d]By your way of thinking, every draft has to be equally disbursed...that is if you get Mays, well you cannot have Aaron and Brett...that wouldn't be "fair". [/quote:1f6e39723d]
This is an absolute slaughter of everything I have advocated. If you disagree with me fine but please do not totally and intentionally distort my position. I am amazed at how some want to transform this in to a personal attack instead of a discussion of the issue. I value everyone's opinions when you have to twist and distort what the other person is saying instead of making your own points you are basically admitting you have nothing to stand on.

If you can get Mays, Aaron, and Brett more power to you. An accurate depiction of my position is that if you have Mays, Aaron and Brett on your draft card you should not be getting stuck drafting Coombs, Evans and Santo so that you just flushed $20 down the drain.

[quote:1f6e39723d]it's not all perfect; and it's also not all bad. No drafting system will be perfect[/quote:1f6e39723d]
Therefore do not make any effort to improve it. I do not seek perfection, but if it can be made better why not do so? Where is the harm in improving something? What if we had taken that "nothings perfect" attitude when the power zapping code was discovered? Or when we did not have L/R stats but campaigned for improvement instead of just saying no reporting system is perfect.

The style of arguments against improvement of the draft system convinces me all the more that improvement is the right course of action.

[macnole]

ok.
My perception is as I read it, so intentionally distorting a position is far too serious an accusation for a baseball board game message board. At least for me.

I'm just relaying how it came across--if I read you wrong, then I read you wrong.

The point is still that there is no clear consensus for change, just because a dozen people are either advocating or even talking about it.