Ellis Valentine

Postby tkl33 » Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:17 am

Aaron!
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Postby deepdrive » Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:49 am

"P.Diddy" doesn't hit as well as Earl, but he's a 1(-4)e2 on defense. :lol:
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Postby seyclops » Fri Jun 23, 2006 8:39 am

Here are Ellis's #s with the Sey Beerians:

159 679 122 206 43 8 36 102 43 105 1 1 .303 .549 .348

I was lucky with injuries with Ellis in Y56, and he helped me to my only championship. He's oddly schizoid, but his split personalities are both excellent. I batted him lead-off or second against righties -- against whom he's all about getting on base, and fifth against lefties, against whom he slams 2Bs, 3Bs and HRs.

Who knows how many HRs Y56 took away from him?
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Postby ROBERTFIELD » Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:13 am

"Adlai Stevenson was probably better value than Riggs Stephenson.


"P.Diddy" doesn't hit as well as Earl, but he's a 1(-4)e2 on defense."


Lyndon Johnson was a better value than Walter, at least in ATG II.

Sgt York was almost certainly a better value than Rudy. Lets's see him charge a German machine gun first.

I like Sam Peckinpaugh's films, so I'll give him the edge over Roger. And he can only go down for 3 games.
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Postby tkl33 » Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:06 pm

LMAO!!! :D

Valentine - 6.21M

Aaron - 8.60M

Quotes from this thread - [i:54075550b7]PRICELESS[/i:54075550b7]
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Postby gkhd11a » Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:33 pm

In Griffith Valentine's vs lefties has a slugging avg of .813 and hits 14.6% more home runs there than Aaron does. Aaron has a better OBP of .415 vs .318 for Valentine.

Versus righties in Griffith Valentine's card has a .373 BA and a .448 OBP vs .355 and .415 for AAron.

Valentine can go down for 15 games and since he would be expected to play about 85-90% of the season on average, that is made up in the arm and the fact he runs the bases like a deer, has 60% of the GBA's which helps in the #4 slot, and has a 47 point bonus on clutch with runners in scoring position vs Aaron who in that situation has a minus 28 point average deduction. My teams mostly score in the 600-650 range and Valentine is usually a 100 runs and 100 RBI man. He is a terror to the pitching staffs of Dunn teams, and has the speed, defense and OBP and defense to play on small ball teams. I have my doubts as to whether Aaron even has a better card than Valentine in Griffith but it is close. For the style of baseball it is not close. 2.4 million allows for a lot of upgrades elsewhere, good move......................
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Postby mridge01 » Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:17 pm

Wow, as always thanks for the feedback. I feel much better about my decision, thanks again Charlie.
Mostly I'm just glad I was able to start an entertaining thread even if it was by accident.
By the way, what is the website I refer to to see how certain players perform in certain parks?
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Postby Minoso Express » Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:16 pm

www.diamonddope.com

Have fun.

You won't regret having Ellis. I have him on a Forbes team alongside Alou and Cleon Jones. It's way early in the season (55-60 ABs each), but Ellis is batting .549 with a .597 OBP and an .804 slugging percentage through 51 ABs. He has 8 doubles, one homer and 12 RBIs, 6 walks.

He's batting .600 against lefties, .537 against righties. Five of his six walks have come against righty pitching.
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