Official ATG new card poach requests

Official ATG new card poach requests

Postby bernieh » Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:31 am

As I said in the teaser thread leading up to ATG New Card Batch #4 (which debuted yesterday), I'm posting this new thread to officially take your requests for cards we can "poach" from some of our other sets. These sets specifically include:

[b:6197e63aec]FantaSim, The '70s Game, Back to the '80s, Back to the '90s, 1986, 1999, 2001-2010.[/b:6197e63aec]

The background, again:

Strat-O-Matic Co. has entered their big development push leading up to the launch of version 17 of their CD-ROM Baseball game due out in early 2012, so they don't have the time to deliver new cards to us for the online game. They did give us a bigger batch earlier, so I do have a reserve stash, but to be honest, they're getting less and less exciting as I deal out the fun ones to you each month.

Thus I've been trying to be resourceful and improvise, scavenging around in our other sets to see what cards I can poach from them. The upside is I'm able to be a bit more nimble, targeting specific requests I've been hearing from you guys, and turning them around more quickly.

The downside is that [b:6197e63aec]FantaSim[/b:6197e63aec] - where any pre-1970 cards are to be found - [b:6197e63aec]is an old game[/b:6197e63aec], and the cards I mine from it are not necessarily the most recent cards that Strat-O-Matic has produced. In some cases, SOM has since produced a true Super-Advanced set of cards for the season in question, and in some other cases, they've since updated their method of computer-processing non-SA cards for us. In any case, for example, I know for a fact that the cards we added with Batch #4 for Arky Vaughan and Nap Lajoie that I mined from FantaSim are NOT the same as the ones most recently available in the CD-ROM game.

They're STILL Arky Vaughan 1935 and Nap Lajoie 1901, though, and are the ones that have been powering FantaSim for all these years. And they're the only ones that I can present to you at this time. I only hesitated because from what I can tell, this version of Arky Vaughan has significantly more HR power than the one I see in the CD-ROM game. I'm guessing that the majority of you don't mind [i:6197e63aec]that[/i:6197e63aec] much, as long as he's Arky Vaughan. It should be made clear that we've introduced a lot of OTHER cards in ATG that were taken straight from FantaSim. There wasn't considerable opinion that I should NOT have added the cards, or should not add them going forward, but I'll still keep my ears open.

So, with that in mind, feel free to browse through the cards we have in the sets I listed above and pick the ones you'd most like to see added to ATG in one of our upcoming monthly new card batches. The final decisions will be mine as always, but the first ones that would be targeted for addition would be the more popularly-requested ones, naturally. And I'll probably need a volunteer or two to moderate and/or summarize this thread for me, whether it's george barnard (who has been [i:6197e63aec]incredibly[/i:6197e63aec] helpful in the process so far and you should all thank him) or someone else.

Here's the handy links to the card browsers for each of our "Mystery Card" sets. You should be able to access them without having a team in them. [b:6197e63aec]NOTE[/b:6197e63aec] that all ratings (fielding, stealing, running, bunting, h&r, balk, wp, hold) in these sets are an [b:6197e63aec]average[/b:6197e63aec] applied across 5 of each player's cards, and would be trumped by the actual ratings found for each single card in the CD-ROM game (of which I can't provide you a reference).

[url=http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/baseball/stratomatic/fantasim/draft/research.html?position_id=10]FantaSim[/url] - note that the individual cards aren't viewable in this game, by design. The most important thing is you can see which ones there are.

[url=http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/baseball/stratomatic/70s/about/research.html]The '70s Game[/url]

[url=http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/baseball/stratomatic/80s/draft/research.html?position_id=10]Back to the '80s[/url]

[url=http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/stratomatic/about/research.html?pool_id=90]Back to the '90s[/url]

This thread will be culled at various intervals that give me time to craft the requests into batches and formulate the salaries.

Happy hunting!
Last edited by bernieh on Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:56 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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A few quick choices...

Postby WeatherNut » Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:08 pm

2B -
Gehringer 29 or 36
Lazzeri 29
McManus 23
Evers 12

3B -
Mathews 53
Traynor 23
Clift 37

C-
Dickey 36 or 37
E. Howard 63
Munson 73 or 75
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Postby george barnard » Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:12 pm

I'd be happy to help out.

It might be easier for sorting if everybody gave a sort of top ten (twenty?) list (top ten (twenty?) hitters and top ten (twenty?) pitchers) per card drop, because frankly if everybody gave 3 gazillion names, we'd all be overwhelmed. After every card drop, you can give a new list.

How does that sound? If you have a better idea, I'm all ears.

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Postby george barnard » Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:37 pm

Here are my choices:

Hitters:

Eddie Collins 1924
Matty Alou 1966
Hank Aaron 1971
Jose Cruz 1983
Steve Balboni 1984
Darren Daulton 1992
Joey Cora 1997
Mike Cameron 2000
Danny Bautista 2001
Lance Berkman 2004

Pitchers:

Jim Brewer 1972
Rollie Fingers 1976
Steve Bedrosian 1987
Ramon Martinez 1990
Joey Hamilton 1995
Curtis Leskanic 1995
Trevor Hoffman 1996
Paul Abbott 1999
Bartolo Colon 2005
John Lackey 2007

I'm assuming that the 2001-2010 are in play. Correct me, Bernie, if I'm wrong.

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Postby Salty » Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:43 pm

I think the 10 requests per person is more than fair...

but can someone explain the FantaSim cards- I half get it- but I dont see the actual cards...
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Postby andycummings65 » Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:54 pm

I want more guys we dont have now, instead of 4-5 cards for the same guy

[b:1912b2ba14]1970s[/b:1912b2ba14]
1973 Willie Stargell--a Willie that can hit and is 1b eligible

[b:1912b2ba14]1980s[/b:1912b2ba14]
82 Fernando Valenzuela
82 Bill Buckner
83 Steve Sax
88 Andre DAwson (87 is really out there, but want an Andre as a Cub and a RF)

[b:1912b2ba14]1990s[/b:1912b2ba14]--I have a TON here, but I will try to be judicious for the time being
1992 John Smoltz
1996 John Smoltz
2001 Manny Ramirez
1999 MAnny RAmirez
2000 Jorge Posada
1999 Johnny Damon
1995 Lance Johnson
1992 Joe Carter
1988 Sid Bream
1993 Otis Nixon
1992 Jack McDowell
2001 Andy Pettite
1993 MArk Lemke
1999 Tino MArtinez

[b:1912b2ba14]2000s[/b:1912b2ba14]
04 Johnny Damon
01 Trot Nixon
05 Bill Mueller
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Postby Frank Bailey » Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:33 pm

Hitters
Red Schoendienst 1953
Eddie Mathews 1953
Roger Maris 1960

Pitchers
Dick Ellsworth 1963
Jim Maloney 1965
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Postby Roosky » Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:49 pm

Here is my top 20 but I could go on and on, plus I have not even looked at the 90's and 2000's yet. I think if Bernie can come up with a list each month and let us vote on them it would be awesome. Maybe he takes nominations and then makes up the list to vote on, and the top 20 makes it that month. We could add guys forever and I would love it. I love having multiple cards for guys, just makes for variety.

1. Averill 1936
2. Dickey 1936 or 1937
3. F. Robinson 1962
4. Gehringer 1937
5. Bench 1970
6. Al Simmons 1930
7. Heilmann 1923
8. Lazzeri 1929
9. Dawson 1987
10. Stargell 1973
11. Kaline 1955
12. Babe Herman 1930
13. Lombardi 1938
14. Manush 1928
15. J. Dimaggio 1937
16. K. Williams 1922
17. Yaz 1970
18. C. Williams 1923
19. D. Johnson 1973
20. Carbo 1970
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Postby bernieh » Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:00 pm

[quote:bcb62cc666="El-Saltman"]but can someone explain the FantaSim cards- I half get it- but I dont see the actual cards...[/quote:bcb62cc666]
That's by design - FantaSim was created as a gateway for traditional fantasy baseball fans to enter the world of SOM and thus the focus was on the stats and the simplified ratings. Sorry, I'm not able to display the actual cards there.
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Postby Salty » Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:27 pm

okay-

thanks, and in that case Ill stick to the other sets:

Joe Morgan 76
Jim Brewer 72

Dale Murphy 83
Nomar Garciaparra 2000
Chipper Jones 1996

Edgar Martinez 96 and 97
John Kruk 1993
Chuck Knoblauch or however you spell it 95
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