nev,
I used Adams in an $80 mill league as a super reliever and got 403 innings out of him. 0 Starts, all relief innings. You were in the league, actually in my division, so you can go in and look at game stats to see how he was used.
I don't think I had many options selected at all. I'd be surprised if he was in mopup or ahead, tied or behind when late, etc. My team was the Upside Downers in the Paul Splittorff league.
Don't know if it will help or not but good luck!
Bullpen Problem?
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by nevdully's » Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:22 pm
Sometimes it works sometimes not...no rhyme or reason I can see.
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by gkhd11a » Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:49 pm
I have never failed to have Babe Adams used as a relief pitcher as I desired. It is relatively simple, list him as closer, setup, late innings and tied situations. Have the rest of your staff be righty or lefty specialists. Have your starting pitchers be less than 7 innings, although in more expensive leagues I like 1 starter to be a 9 inning stud to give Babe a day of rest to be brought back in. Set your bullpen to very aggressive, Babe to slow hook and do not relive before R7 or R8 depending on how good you want your other relievers and you'll get 300+ innings for sure
HAL likes to relieve with Babe because he costs a lot and is a R5. I can always get more prime innings out of Babe than any other reliever. HAL will leave him in for 4-6 innings easily and wants to use him because of his high cost. You do need to list a starting pitching staff because otherwise HAL will be confused. I would never select mop-up because that role is intended for a pitcher who is never going to come in unless the team situation is hopeless. How in the world is HAL to determine oh yeah I want this guy in the most important situations and I want to save him for the hopeless situations?
HAL will use BABE all the time as a relief pitcher without a problem, I think if all the settings and use were made absolutely simple the skill of the game would be reduced. The idea that Bernie should be able to deduce how to make the settings to get a result and act as a consultant to the top player is being ludicrous. Careful attention to what HAL actually does will help.
OH and listing the other pitchers as lefty specialists and righty specialists (especially if they really are) will help.
HAL likes to relieve with Babe because he costs a lot and is a R5. I can always get more prime innings out of Babe than any other reliever. HAL will leave him in for 4-6 innings easily and wants to use him because of his high cost. You do need to list a starting pitching staff because otherwise HAL will be confused. I would never select mop-up because that role is intended for a pitcher who is never going to come in unless the team situation is hopeless. How in the world is HAL to determine oh yeah I want this guy in the most important situations and I want to save him for the hopeless situations?
HAL will use BABE all the time as a relief pitcher without a problem, I think if all the settings and use were made absolutely simple the skill of the game would be reduced. The idea that Bernie should be able to deduce how to make the settings to get a result and act as a consultant to the top player is being ludicrous. Careful attention to what HAL actually does will help.
OH and listing the other pitchers as lefty specialists and righty specialists (especially if they really are) will help.
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by FUDU » Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:00 pm
I'm following you (and believing you) up until you include LH/RH specialists. Why wouldn't HAL bring in one of those to relieve Babe? Either way I see it as too risky if the point is to get Babe as many innings as possible.
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by gkhd11a » Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:09 pm
[quote:f8f491fae5="FUDU"]I'm following you (and believing you) up until you include LH/RH specialists. Why wouldn't HAL bring in one of those to relieve Babe? Either way I see it as too risky if the point is to get Babe as many innings as possible.[/quote:f8f491fae5] the reason is because BABE is on slow how and do not relieve until F7. HAL will tend to just leave him in. More to the point though is HAL might bring a Linzy type in but if listed as a specialist will pull after a batter or 2 and bring in Babe who then stays. That is why you set the bullpen to aggressive. It seems counter intuitive but the idea is to get your 8 million dollar reliever as much prime innings as possible.
If HAL does use the other pitchers by having them on aggressive when they do pitch they have short stints usually and then in a couple of games they are not eligible. Now one of Nev's problems I think is he likes Al McBean who is a 4 inning guy and when he gets in HAL will tend to leave him in as well because he is an R4 reliever - and HAL likes to leave those guys in the same as he does Babe. It is not enough to tell HAL what to do with BABE, you also need to tell him what to do with the other guys as well.
If HAL does use the other pitchers by having them on aggressive when they do pitch they have short stints usually and then in a couple of games they are not eligible. Now one of Nev's problems I think is he likes Al McBean who is a 4 inning guy and when he gets in HAL will tend to leave him in as well because he is an R4 reliever - and HAL likes to leave those guys in the same as he does Babe. It is not enough to tell HAL what to do with BABE, you also need to tell him what to do with the other guys as well.
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by nevdully's » Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:18 pm
[quote:5ff0ba2bd7]You do need to list a starting pitching staff because otherwise HAL will be confused. I would [b:5ff0ba2bd7]never select mop-up because that role is intended for a pitcher who is never going to come in unless the team situation is hopeless. [/b:5ff0ba2bd7]How in the world is HAL to determine oh yeah I want this guy in the most important situations and I want to save him for the hopeless situations?
HAL will use BABE all the time as a relief pitcher without a problem, I think if all the settings and use were made absolutely simple the skill of the game would be reduced. The idea that Bernie should be able to deduce how to make the settings to get a result and act as a consultant to the top player is being ludicrous. Careful attention to what HAL actually does will help.
OH and listing the other pitchers as lefty specialists and righty specialists (especially if they really are) will help. [/quote:5ff0ba2bd7]
Charlie check your pms
HAL will use BABE all the time as a relief pitcher without a problem, I think if all the settings and use were made absolutely simple the skill of the game would be reduced. The idea that Bernie should be able to deduce how to make the settings to get a result and act as a consultant to the top player is being ludicrous. Careful attention to what HAL actually does will help.
OH and listing the other pitchers as lefty specialists and righty specialists (especially if they really are) will help. [/quote:5ff0ba2bd7]
Charlie check your pms
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by nevdully's » Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:23 pm
[quote:4c4a0755b9]You do need to list a starting pitching staff because otherwise HAL will be confused. I would [b:4c4a0755b9]never select mop-up because that role is intended for a pitcher who is never going to come in unless the team situation is hopeless. [/b:4c4a0755b9]How in the world is HAL to determine oh yeah I want this guy in the most important situations and I want to save him for the hopeless situations?
HAL will use BABE all the time as a relief pitcher without a problem, I think if all the settings and use were made absolutely simple the skill of the game would be reduced. The idea that Bernie should be able to deduce how to make the settings to get a result and act as a consultant to the top player is being ludicrous. Careful attention to what HAL actually does will help.
OH and listing the other pitchers as lefty specialists and righty specialists (especially if they really are) will help. [/quote:4c4a0755b9]
Charlie check your pms
HAL will use BABE all the time as a relief pitcher without a problem, I think if all the settings and use were made absolutely simple the skill of the game would be reduced. The idea that Bernie should be able to deduce how to make the settings to get a result and act as a consultant to the top player is being ludicrous. Careful attention to what HAL actually does will help.
OH and listing the other pitchers as lefty specialists and righty specialists (especially if they really are) will help. [/quote:4c4a0755b9]
Charlie check your pms
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by nevdully's » Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:24 pm
[quote:b796c72907][b:b796c72907]You do need to list a starting pitching staff because otherwise HAL will be confused[/b:b796c72907]. I would [b:b796c72907]never select mop-up because that role is intended for a pitcher who is never going to come in unless the team situation is hopeless. [/b:b796c72907]How in the world is HAL to determine oh yeah I want this guy in the most important situations and I want to save him for the hopeless situations?
HAL will use BABE all the time as a relief pitcher without a problem, I think if all the settings and use were made absolutely simple the skill of the game would be reduced.[b:b796c72907] The idea that Bernie should be able to deduce how to make the settings to get a result and act as a consultant to the top player is being ludicrous. [/b:b796c72907]Careful attention to what HAL actually does will help.
OH and listing the other pitchers as lefty specialists and righty specialists (especially if they really are) will help. [/quote:b796c72907]
Charlie check your pms
HAL will use BABE all the time as a relief pitcher without a problem, I think if all the settings and use were made absolutely simple the skill of the game would be reduced.[b:b796c72907] The idea that Bernie should be able to deduce how to make the settings to get a result and act as a consultant to the top player is being ludicrous. [/b:b796c72907]Careful attention to what HAL actually does will help.
OH and listing the other pitchers as lefty specialists and righty specialists (especially if they really are) will help. [/quote:b796c72907]
Charlie check your pms
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