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[Play By The Rules]

Six teams under .500 in 75 completed seasons. But a whole, whole bunch of teams under 90 wins. Including a bunch of teams I was sure would win a ring easily...

The truth is, it's a dice game. The difference between any of us in skill is usually negated by luck. I view it more as an experiment, seeing if different styles of teams work and fit in the league I'm in. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. Everyone has their own favorite players, but that doesn't mean you'll always get them.

I hate losing as much as the next guy, but as long as I've "learned" something by it, it's not so bad. I've also experienced building two roughly similar teams that start at the same time, with one winning and the other losing. As well as luck, league makeup (L/R, ballparks, C throwing ratings) can have a great deal to do with the success of a squad.

[Munich_Man]

[quote:b411ece2f4="nevdully's"]There is [b:b411ece2f4]no one[/b:b411ece2f4] that beats me more often than Rick, it's not even close.


I don't think I've ever, [b:b411ece2f4]EVER[/b:b411ece2f4] [size=18:b411ece2f4]EVER[/size:b411ece2f4] won a season series from Rick.


I always, [b:b411ece2f4]ALWAYS[/b:b411ece2f4] [size=18:b411ece2f4]ALWAYS[/size:b411ece2f4] think my teams are better.

But I never, [b:b411ece2f4]NEVER[/b:b411ece2f4] [size=18:b411ece2f4]NEVER[/size:b411ece2f4] can win against Rick.




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Thanks for the praise, Michael. :D 8) :D 8) :D 8) :D 8) :D

I think there may be some selective memory from the few keeper or extended leagues we've been in together in the same division, where I regularly kicked your äss :wink: :P , but I think the NEVERs are a bit of an exaggeration. :wink:

For my part, my chief nemesis is Ed Bazo and his Roadkill. He just swept me again last night. :D I HATE that guy! :wink:

PBTR brings up a good point. A good team is a good team, but luck does play a part. The Identical League experiment we did a while back is an example. For those who don't know, 12 of us set up two identical leagues, same divisions, exact same teams, exact same manager settings, lineups, rotations, etc. We even entered the teams in the same order in the divisions and started on the same day to try to replicate everything.

While I did finish first and made the Finals with both teams, one team won 103 and the other team won 87. Of course, the 87 win team won the ring.

Another example is Bobby's "Beat Munich Man's Best" league, where I replicated my best (record) team and everyone else drafted normally. I didn't (and don't) think it was my best team, but it did win the most games. Anyway, my 107 win team "only" won 87 and finished 3rd, 4 games out of first. Of course, the rest of the league, and particularly the division, tailored their teams specifically to beat mine, but still...

All that said, it is a dice game, and luck is involved, but the consistently good managers are able to manufacture luck. It's just that sometimes the assembly line goes on strike. :wink:

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[PJ Axelsson]

In general, Charles, yes, they are easier. But most of the autodraft leagues I enter have at least 2 or 3 vets that regularly enter autodraft leagues and know how to set up a draft card. Taking on all star teams full of Carters and Cuylers and Mays and Alexanders can negate any skill you have and leave it totally up to the dice.

I guess the word easier should have been "different". Building a team to beat these monsters is a different game than it is to beat a team that was live drafted by one of 12 knowledgeable addicts.

[egvrich]

Had to check now ....... I've had 33 of 104 teams finish below .500. But, in my defense ( :oops: ), 10 of those teams were stupid, outrageous, or crazy theme teams during my Chief Wahoo phase, so I don't think they should really count. :wink:

Regarding trades, I will never turn down a trade based upon who the manager is. Bottom line for me is ... does the trade make my team better, if the answer in my mind is yes, then I make the trade. Period.

[gkhd11a]

[url=http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/uc/20060515/lbl060515.gif]9th inning for Nev's teams[/url]

[nevdully's]

:) :) :) :)

[pepsi4dan]

[quote:0b676f14ae="oldsneaks"]Sure NevDully wants to make trades, silly offers at that, he'll scoff up players dropped in hopes of trading them, when he can't, he waits for the league to start, drops good players that he holds in his hand and replaces them with players he wants that are still on the board, genius? far from it..........he only takes advantage of the fact that a lot of gamers think that once 10pm rolls around everything is etched in stone........don't be fooled folks, there are ALWAYS good players to be had after midnight with no 20% penalty thanks to players like the much heralded NevDully who lives by the creed.....I don't need the good player but I'll hold him so you can't have him either! ....... click the "transactions" button folks, long after the first 3 games of your league begin.......don't let this happen to you, I just saw him do it with Cecil Cooper and Manny Sanguillen with his Signed Sealed Delivered Team[/quote:0b676f14ae]

Looks like Nev made a friend :)

[Rob55]

:mrgreen:

[Munich_Man]

My, my, those are some mighty sour grapes!