A ruthless bit of self-promotion...

Postby gkhd11a » Thu Nov 10, 2005 11:37 pm

[quote:9729f4bcaa]The nevster will also play in any park anytime and more often then not win. He doesn't confine himself to 1 or even 2 or 3 styles or types.
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As someone who does confine himself to one basic style, I am in awe of that ability. But I did recently pick up a few pointers on bomber teams from Rob that I have printed out and in a file called "Stratomatic Bomber Teams" in the file drawer of my desk next to my computer.


It is the thinnest file in my desk, but I have valuable insight that I am going to use soon! Then watch out world!!

Excuse me thinking of my results in bomber teams has caused my chest to deflate somewhat I need to go back to the garage and get the air pump......
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Postby Munich_Man » Fri Nov 11, 2005 6:03 am

Excellent post Flash :wink:

Nice post from you you as well Ed, you weasel. I don't want to belittle anyone, I just feel that it is more gratifying to go up against 11 other quality/experienced managers (and I certainly include Petrosian and PBTR in that category) and have success, than jump in an auto league where you have perhaps 6 or 7 managers who are inexperienced or don't really know what they are doing.

I'll save the auto leagues for my experimental teams and hop in one occasionally, but that's it.

Events like the Barnstormers, with 60+ experienced managers over 4 rounds and Bobby's tournament which is 10 seasons and covers all league formats in both Waivers and Frenzies are definitely true tests of skill (both of which were open to everyone where are you, Petrosian :P :wink: )


[quote:6f93278b41]Try playing 40+ active teams like Frank, Nev and I do and see what your winning pct's look like. With that many teams, micromanagement is out the window. [/quote:6f93278b41]

I don't buy that at all, I've had as many as 20 active teams and have 13 active now, about to become 16, actually, and don't find it any more or less difficult when I "only" have 5 or 6 (those times are long since gone), and my win% is pretty respectable :wink: .

What sets Nev apart, is that he has 30-40+ active teams and DOES micromanage all of them!!! This simply blows my mind. As Rob said, that and the fact that he plays the whole spectrum of team formats and stadiums will always keep Mr. Kroeze at the top of the heap in my book. 8)

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Postby The Last Druid » Fri Nov 11, 2005 10:09 am

I believe the operative word is "were" open to everyone. I'm still a relative newbie, been playing here less than nine months. I only started playing frenzies around July when I felt I knew the cards well enough to make snap decisions. I'd love to get in those leagues but aren't they long since filled? And then, whenever I propose something similar that I[b:e959fb4ff9] could[/b:e959fb4ff9] play in, no one wants to play (with one notable exception) [b:e959fb4ff9]AND[/b:e959fb4ff9] I get castigated for ducking the established leagues? Wow, I just love catch-22's.

I would agree with you that 20 is no more difficult than five or six teams to manage. But 45 teams IS different, at least for me.
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Postby Munich_Man » Fri Nov 11, 2005 10:23 am

No castigating intended, just a little dig. After all, when you make one of these "ruthless self-promotion" threads, you open yourself up. Believe me, I know! :)

We're just finishing up the last qualification round for the Championship League in the Barnstormers Tour (Nev & I are neck & neck for the top spot, I think he'll get me by a game or two,the weasel!) We will certainly have another Tour and I know you'll jump on that one. I bet we can even expand it to 6 leagues this time, which would be great.

Nothing personal, I knew it would get you, which is why I gave you the "razz" and the wink. :D

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Postby Rob55 » Fri Nov 11, 2005 10:33 am

45 is a LOT....too many probably. I am not entirely sure what the MOST I have ever had .... I was thnking 39 was my high, but wouldn't put money on it. I post from time to time and not once have you ever read where I down played your accomplishments in any way. The fact is if you can win consistently in auto leagues then you can win in vet leagues too. Your winning % may go down a couple of points but you will still win. The thing different about vet leagues is that everyone knows the players and so the FA is usually not as filled with good players. Then again sometimes the vets out think themselves and go for different players all at the same time and some real jewels fall to the FA. Having played in almost everything at one time or another I will say that in the tours such as the Barnstormers the level is higher...the leagues much harder. The next season for the barnstormers will start around the first of the year...join that for some good solid competition.

For me any league can be a bad/tough one if the draft goes poorly, but the toughest is usually live drafts....no one falls threw the cracks in a live draft.......so if you want to up your level of play to prove something to yourself or others ...try a few live drafts. For my part ...no proof is needed ...I see your teams in almost every league I join and know they will be competitive whether its an auto or any other type of league. This holds true for all the good managers, everyone gets a turkey from time to time....the good ones just have fewer of those.
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Postby MICHAELEVANS » Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:16 pm

I know how tough the Barnstormers can be -- I lucked into being allowed to play as a replacement. In the spirit of doing something new with each round, I tried a basher team since I have almost no experience with that style of play. To be charitable, let's just say that PFMB cleaned my clock (25 games up in my division with 3 games left to play). I have played at .500 ball, but I don't expect to be invited back to round 5, and secretly, I'm relieved! That competition is brutal, and to try a new style of play just exacerbated the frustration. It was, however, a GREAT learning experience. :wink:
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How and Why

Postby nevdully's » Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:42 pm

How can I micromanage 40 teams?

I own 2 businesses, and come and go as I please because I've got a very good group of people working for me. I put in a few days a week (3 or 4) for 4-6 hours, so lotsa free time.

Why so many teams?


I enjoy watching the seasons of stats unfold. :D

Tonight night I'll choose a bunch of teams, and really pour over their numbers. Because I have so many teams it'll be a week before I get back to study those teams again, however by that time it's like starting over, and the stats seem new again. :D

It's kinda like being able to watch a great movie on Monday, and then again a week later with different eyes. 8)
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The Good the Bad and the Ugly

Postby nevdully's » Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:45 pm

The Good-------You guys, and most of my teams. 8)

The Bad---------Some of my teams. :( (oh and penngray :P

The Ugly--------The 20 pounds I've gained since I started ATG. :shock:
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TSN Leagues vs. "Vet" Leagues

Postby doctrcpa » Fri Nov 11, 2005 3:54 pm

Not that I will ever hit the # of teams that people have mentioned above, but here is my record in TSN Leagues (3) vs. Vet Leagues (4: 3 were Mav's tourney).

TSN: 253-233 .521 1 playoff - lost in semis

Vet: 348-300 .537 3 playoffs - 2 titles and 1 lost in semis

What does this mean? I don't know. But I thought it was interesting that my record in vet leagues was better than in TSN leagues.
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Postby The Last Druid » Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:04 pm

Did live face to face drafts for 20 years. Would prefer that format actually. However, it ain't perfect. It can make a huge difference between the first pick and later picks, depending on the year. Plan to get into net play, but would prefer using only seasons where the research is super-advanced. I like gba's on the pitchers card. One year in the 90's Greg Maddux had 12 gba's each way on his card. Plus the relievers are realistically coded. No top relievers with an N on their closer ratings. My ideal would be one season per decade from 1910-1970. Yeah it's a larger player pool but most of them wouldn't be that good. Hopefully by next year I can piss enough people off so they want my blood and will join. So far though that strategy only seems to have worked with Charlie. :cry:

P.S. Let me clarify my intent behind the last two sentences, lest I open myself to further castigation. They reflect more of my self-mocking sense of irony than any deliberate strategy that I have adopted. Just so that people are clear on that. I know I can be very easy to misread, especially if there are no non-verbal cues to interpret me. My sense of humor is drier than a martini without vermouth.
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