ATG new cards batch #5 debuts 1/30/12

Postby rburgh » Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:54 am

I think the right way to price the cards is to evaluate them for the following parks:

20 20 20 20
0 0 20 20 (Polo 41)
20 20 0 0
0 20 0 20
20 0 20 0
0 0 0 0
10 10 10 10

Then use the average of the three highest values to determine the salary.
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Postby Paul_Long71 » Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:05 am

I'm pretty sure the 0-0-0-0 park will NEVER be one of the "3 highest Values" in your example Rburgh...so why even use it then. I like your beginning premise, but might as well take average of ALL those parks.
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Postby Salty » Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:16 am

[quote:79ae0ea89b="rburgh"]I think the right way to price the cards is to evaluate them for the following parks:

20 20 20 20
0 0 20 20 (Polo 41)
20 20 0 0
0 20 0 20
20 0 20 0
0 0 0 0
10 10 10 10

Then use the average of the three highest values to determine the salary.[/quote:79ae0ea89b]

Just curious here- but why wouldn't we simply use the 10 10 10 10 model to price cards?
(Im a statistical Donkey, so pardon me if I dont get it)...


and also- Im not sure of its ease, but I do think in an ideal situation it would be a plug-in determination once you have established values for each stat.
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Postby AeroDave10 » Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:53 am

[quote:6c5711feb7="El-Saltman"]Just curious here- but why wouldn't we simply use the 10 10 10 10 model to price cards?[/quote:6c5711feb7]

I've heard that 8 8 8 8 represents the average/default park.
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Postby Salty » Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:03 am

[quote:951584239b="AeroDave10"][quote:951584239b="El-Saltman"]Just curious here- but why wouldn't we simply use the 10 10 10 10 model to price cards?[/quote:951584239b]

I've heard that 8 8 8 8 represents the average/default park.[/quote:951584239b]

okay-

8 8 8 8 or 9 9 9 9 or 10 10 10 10
whichever most accurately represents the median or whichever mathematical term is applicable for middle here:

If my thinking is wrong here- please explain it to me like Im a 13 year old teen-ager with acne issues.
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Postby Roosky » Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:20 am

I would think along the same lines as you salt.
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Postby Valen » Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:53 am

I would think the base price of a card would be measured against an average of all ballparks used. That would make the price reflective of how we use the cards. Strato might have intended for 8-8-8-8 to be the standard but if the average park used by us is 11-10-14-15 or whatever why not base pricing on that?
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Postby Chuck1234 » Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:54 am

The cards evaluated are based on how they perform against the Lazy Daisy Rancher teams. A pitcher who continually shuts them out will be priced around the 8M range with considerations that there are 10 other teams in the league to face. If the Ranchers are in your division, the price goes up since chances on making the playoffs increase. Hitter prices are based on HRs hit against them, OBP, stolen bases, slugging percentage against Rancher pitchers. Pounding Delivery Boy's bullpen doesn't count since the lead should be considerable after the starters are taken out by the 2nd inning.
Are Linus and Snoopy included as a middle infield double play combo in the latest batch? I've never seen them commit an error but Charles Shultz never released their batting stats either.

Sincerely,
Delivery Boy...
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Postby Salty » Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:07 pm

[quote:64c249fa9a="Valen"]I would think the base price of a card would be measured against an average of all ballparks used. That would make the price reflective of how we use the cards. Strato might have intended for 8-8-8-8 to be the standard but if the average park used by us is 11-10-14-15 or whatever why not base pricing on that?[/quote:64c249fa9a]

V- If my supposition is correct- then you absolutely cant/shouldnt/wouldnt want to weight them based on useage; Thats an ever-changing variable rather than an absolute even one.
Keep in mind that Im not a maths person, so am hoping my explanation makes sense.
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Postby The Last Druid » Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:33 pm

[quote:4dcd0b7d88]Nothing against Mark, but pricing is formula-based using data that should be readily available. If I'm running the site, I have the formula in the code and as soon as I plug the data in, there's the price. I don't wait for a member of the community to supply it when he has the time. [/quote:4dcd0b7d88]

A trenchant observation.
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