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Pitchers in Dunn - who's the best?
Posted:
Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:46 pm
by Palanion
Let's say for this argument that I have roughly 22 million to spend on a four-man staff at Dunn.
Would you spend more than one-third of that budget on, say, koosman or Ojeda - and then divvy the remaining 13 mil on guys like Carlton, Mogridge, Key, McGregor, Cuellar, McNally or Kaat?
And would you go with an all-lefty staff?
Or would you want to include a high-end RHP like a Lemon or Maddox, or middle-tier like Derringer or Drysdale or Coveleski?
I have had good luck with guys like Holtzman, Lemon, McNally. And I think I was lucky with Carlton. But I have been disappointed with guys like Tommy John and Mogridge....
Thoughts from the experts on this?
Posted:
Tue Jun 27, 2006 8:35 pm
by Frank Bailey
My experience with those pitchers in Dunn is similar. But don't short the defense behind them. Remember, you are playing smallball.
Posted:
Tue Jun 27, 2006 9:55 pm
by The Last Druid
Two types of staff's I use in Dunn.
Ideal:
Clemens or Koufax
Seaver
Lolich
Kaat
2nd Choice
Key
Lolich
Kaat
Merritt
Hunter
Frock type
I only use Mogridge in Baker type parks. McGregor, Gura are OK if you can't get the better guys. Carlton is shaky for Dunn as lefties feast off him. But if a team has lots of righties...
Dunn is a hitters park for the home team, not small ball. But it's clearly not a bomber type hitters park. Dunn well, it is a pitchers park for your opponents. :wink:
Posted:
Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:41 am
by Palanion
Well, my plan is to have a 1 at 2b, ss, 3b, c, cf, rf
My budget plan is $47 mil on offense, $22 on SP, $11 on RP. Normally I spend about $7-8 on RP, so I am splurging. But, I also learned from earlier Dunn experiences that I need to put a couple extra bucks in the pen.
Funny thing with your suggestions Petrosian, though I have looked at Kaat and Lolich and am interested in them, I shy away because of the 6 inning thing. I would have one on the staff, but not both.
But, it does seem like I should have at least one righty in the 4 SP. So, should it be the "ace" - $7-9mil or a mid-tier $4-6?
I am intrigued by Derringer, according to Adrian's site, he's a .210/.176 obpa at Dunn. But the .210 is better than guys like Osteen, Coveleski, Morgridge, yet worse then a Key, McGregor or Kaat. So it could work well.
Posted:
Wed Jun 28, 2006 2:04 pm
by rosenthm
Ojeda is one of my favorite pitchers to get for Dunn.
If you want to go really cheap, I've gotten decent sesons out of Forsch and or Hallahan as a fifth starter or even in middle relief.
I also like Kerr in Dunn...
Posted:
Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:07 pm
by The Last Druid
6 innings is fine. They'll get between 230-270 ip. Any rightie you select should give up his ballpark hr's against righties only. That limits the field and reduces the chance for a bad pick.