Seeking Line-up advice

Seeking Line-up advice

Postby TRW » Sun Nov 06, 2005 8:37 pm

Our league starts tomorrow & I'm trying to figure out the best way to set-up my line-up for RHP. I am planning to platoon Jim Gantner (L/1R) with T Herr (S/3L) & platoon Dave Concepcion (R/1R) with Maury Wills. I also have Dick Sisler (L/1L) on my bench. Should I bench Wilson vs RHP, move Aaron to CF & start Sisler/move Concepcion & Gantner to the 1-2 slot? I'm new so any advice would be appreciated...thanks.

For LHP: For RHP:

1- W Wilson CF (S/3L) 1-
2- M Wills SS (S/2L) 2-
3- H Aaron RF (R/E) 3- H Aaron RF (R/E)
4- M Schmidt 3B (R/3L) 4- C Cooper 1B (L/3R)
5- C Cooper 1B (L/3R) 5- M Schmidt 3B (R/3L)
6- J Bench C (R/E) 6- J Bench C (R/E)
7- J Rice LF (R/2L) 7- J Rice LF (R/2L)
8- T Herr 2B (S/3L) 8-
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Postby sschu » Sun Nov 06, 2005 8:54 pm

Suggest you post a link, let us know what park you are playing in and the makeup of the division and league.

Aaron is CF is dangerous, first reaction is no. Schmidt is not normally used much unless you expect to see 50% LH SPs.

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Postby dbrisner » Sun Nov 06, 2005 8:54 pm

Before recommending a batting order and assuming u r in an $80 mil standard league, I'd undo most if not all of your platoons probably favoring keeping Concepcion and Gantner if u r in a pitcher's park, unloading Sisler and reallocating the money elsewhere. Having too much payroll on your bench all at once is a recipe for a losing team. I'd only keep Schmidt if u r playing in a lot of hitters parks. If u keep Wills, I'd bat him leadoff vs. LHs for sure and bat Wilson 2nd b/c Wilson is a good bunter.
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Postby egvrich » Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:18 pm

A link would be very helpful, but I think the big question is WHAT TYPE OF TEAM ARE YOU TRYING TO BUILD?

If it's a Smallball team, that's fine, then stick with Wills as your starting SS and forget Concepcion. If it's a balanced team, I think you need to start with Cooper and Aaron and rework from there. If you're not building a bomber team, dump Schmidt and find a better option at 3B.

Just my opinion, but I don't like either of your choices at 2B. With a link, we could check the FA wire and see who else is available.

Either way, Cooper and Aaron are great building blocks to start with.

What I can tell you for sure is that if you were in my division, you'd see a whole lot of RHP's from me which would shut down your offense. You need another couple of quality lefty bats (which Gantner isn't).
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Postby Free Radicals » Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:25 pm

I'd keep Wilson then Wills 2nd . Maximizes Willie's steals more and Wills is better at moving him over than visa versa. Aaron and Coop are keepers . Schmidt could go and free up a ton of money to improve 2nd base. Rice is good most times and side doesn't matter . Your way left leaning and will see a ton of RHP with this team . Schmidt and Herr could be changed over to LH hitting replacements to give your team more balance . Good core to start with : Hank , Coop , Willie , Wills , Rice and Bench .

If this is what you have I'd go this way then :

Wilson
Wills
Rice (walks)/ Cooper
Aaron
Cooper / Rice
Bench
Schmidt
Herr

Probably to late to help because its Tuesday but hope it works out for you .
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Line-up advice part 2

Postby TRW » Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:38 pm

Thanks for the input. I dropped the platoon idea 2b(Herr/Gantner) & SS(Wills/Concepcion) idea. (Dropped all except M Wills). I picked up B Doerr 2b & A Rosen 3b (dropped M Schmidt.) The league is $80mill, no dh, about half the parks are extreme pitchers parks & the other half is neutral/&hitters parks. I could still use some advice regarding my bullpen & bench. What is more efficient: a 4 man rotation or 5 man? Also do I need a couple of more LHP?

http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/baseball/stratomatic/atg2/team/team_other.html?user_id=80246

1- W WILSON CF
2- M WILLS SS
3- J RICE LF
4- H AARON RF
5- C COOPER 1B
6- J BENCH C
7-A ROSEN 3B
8- B DOERR 2B

SP T SEAVER R
SP S CARLTON L
SP N RYAN R
SP D DRYSDALE R
SP D PETRY R
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Postby Free Radicals » Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:54 am

I am by no means a Riverfront expert . Pitching there seems to be a hard thing to get right . I can't help you here . I like the moves you made in the lineup though .
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Postby Moodymets » Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:22 am

Just one additional food for thought regarding lineup with this roster... in two parts :D :
1) Rosen is slow so there alone is one good reason to keep him from the top of the lineup for many. Having said that, his OBP is generally going to be better than Wilson's and MUCH better than Wills'. I've used him in even the #2 slot vs. righties when legit home run hitters were behind him with great success.
2) Rosen getting a hit or walk in the #7 or 8 slot, for my money, is never going to be as productive as a AA or AAA getting one in the same situation. In ATG II, unless it's an intentional smallball team, the top of the lineup rarely has to "manufacture" runs. The bottom of the lineup however, unless it's a true bomber team, largely benefits from manufacturing runs IMO.

Not suggesting you [i:2b7cf479cf]should[/i:2b7cf479cf] do this as, opinions on it likely vary, but if at some point you feel stuck for a new idea, this is one to try. Have fun and good luck :D
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Postby Free Radicals » Wed Nov 09, 2005 11:13 am

Cooper and Wills don't get hurt so having back ups that are not being used is a waste . Drysdale is not a good fit for this park . See if Nolan ,Demaree, Bagby Sr,Morris , or Oil Can is out there .
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Pitchers & Ballparks

Postby TRW » Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:49 am

How do you determine wheter a pitcher will pitch well in a certain ballpark? For instance, Drysdale has great overall #'s when comparing him to other starters. (I want to make a point that I'm refering to pitchers playing over the last 40yrs or so.) Is there an indication on the playing card? If SOM is going to throw ballpark effect into a player's predicted production, shouldn't there should be a rating for that somewhere?
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