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records

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 11:49 am
by smitty13
I was looking at the SOM record book and the season records are outrageous for hits, runs homers etc. Were those set in no-pitch theme leagues or regular ones? Thanks!

smitty

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 11:53 am
by egvrich
Records are only allowed for NON-theme regular ordinary leagues.

The records for Team Home Runs and Team Batting Average are my particular favorites ........ :wink:

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:13 pm
by smitty13
No offense intended, but how do those numbers mirror reality when they simply are not realistic?

smitty

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:24 pm
by MICHAELEVANS
They are realistic, given that we are basically playing with All-star teams (talent in ATG II is deep enough that every team can have 5-6 all-star quality players, or more), playing in stadiums selected to maximize the advantages of your team (e.g. Yankees 56 for a LH power hitting team, any extreme hitting park for a bomber team, Griffith, Forbes 09 or Candlestick 62 for extreme pitching teams). Thus, you can hit 90 HRs if you are in a ballpark with every ballpark HR is a 1-19 or 1-20, and your player has a lot of HR on his card. If you are in a hitting park with a lot of singles, and you have a high average hitter (cobb, Brett, etc.,) he can hit over .400 for a season.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:34 pm
by smitty13
Begging the question...shouldn't the deep talent of all-star pitchers and solid defense at each position balance out the numbers?

smitty

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:45 pm
by MICHAELEVANS
not all teams have 'all-star" pitching staffs.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:48 pm
by smitty13
:lol: Thanks for the answers! One last question for now...when theme leagues are set-up, is there any control on division alignment? Thanks!

smitty

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:50 pm
by Rob55
smitty.....when a guy here decides to go for the HR record, he plays in a HR park ....then he spends about 10M on a pitching staff and gets all home run hitters.....these teams aren't even designed to win really, jsut hit HR's. Yes good pitching and defense will somewhat nullify this, but when you draft 200+ hit players, their cards are designed to get them those hits...

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:04 pm
by JohnnyBlazers
Not to offend anyone, but I also think some of the unrealistic numbers are by-products of a flaw in the game. HAL is supposed to produce a 50/50 chance of the "dice roll" falling on the hitter or pitchers card but there are times that they will fall more to the hitters cards than pitchers cards and vice-versa (assuming that the dice rolls are on the up-and-up and are truly unbiased by other conditions that can affect probability factors) Those are the times that can seriously alter a pitchers performance in a game and inflate hitters stats. There are some pitchers who have simply been untouchable for a single season (Pedro Martinez/Clemens & and their cards should reflect that dominance (maybe skew the odds of a dice roll falling on the card by a 70% chance). That being said, some cards are stunningly accurate, while some others are way off. This is a great game as I am discovering, however there are some things that are a bit off. You can't assume that if Mickey Mantle played all his games at Polo Grounds he would hit 90 hrs (he played with a .297 wall down the RF line at Yankee Stadium and he never hit over 60) or that if Albert Pujols played his home games @ Coors that he would have over 70 dingers (he might be walked 200 times a year!). Just my 2 cents...