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Defensive replacements

PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 1:00 pm
by LARRYCURTIS
Is Hal sophisticated enough to do this move:

Start Rose at 3b, set him for defensive replacement in LF.

Start Killebrew in LF, set J Kennedy as a defensive replacement in 3B.

Will Hal move Rose to LF and Kennedy to 3b for defense late in the game.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 1:16 pm
by egvrich
I've seen this asked before and the answer was yes, it's a matter of listing them in the correct order. I believe you must list Rose as the LF first and then Kennedy as the 3B second.

Maybe it's the other way around ..... :?

Hopefully someone can confirm.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 9:36 pm
by dwightskino211
why are you drafting any of them anyway? they all suck, better to get lf and 3b that you want to play all the time

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 12:48 am
by MIKEGILBERT
EGVRICH is correct - you would set Rose in the first defensive replacement spot, and Kennedy in the second.

However, it is by no means foolproof. When I have tried it in ATGII, it has seldom been executed. I think HAL uses the individual settings before the manager settings (I don't know that for a fact, but it has been my experience), so if you have "replace for defensive purposes" in an individual, the double switch will not work, as HAL will use the best fielder from the bench as a replacement.

In short, I would not count on HAL following your double-switch instructions, and plan accordingly.

Oh, and dwightskino21 is right, too! :)

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 1:28 am
by BassballJG
On a related topic, we've been discussing in our league how does HAL make defensive substitutions for injury, pinch hit and pinch running situations. Several of us have noted our experiences with some counterintuitive moves, aprt from injuries with no one left on the bench, then it makes sense to see players out of position.

Examples include catchers with no outfield positions on their cards in center field when true outfielders remain on the bench, and this, taken from an email which began our discussion:

[quote:a0d85d8143]In game #121, Kinetics v. Dynatrons, Tippy enters the game and HAL
sends Chet Lemon up to bat for Bake McBride. Not necessarily a bad
move, but he whiffs. What does HAL do about the defense? He puts TFP
in RF (that'd be Tony Freaking Pena), who not only is my worst hitter, but
is, of course, a catcher. We wouldn't want to just slide Lemon, a 1e2 CF,
over to right. We wouldn't want to bring in Gary Roenicke, who also coulda
been the PH. It also meant that Pena was available, with the bases
loaded and one out in the 11th, to ground into a DP. (Just checked the
card -- HAL exploited the deepest darkest corner of the Pena card, which
credits him with being a RF 4(+2)e16. Now it all makes sense! Brilliant
move, Mr. HAL!)[/quote:a0d85d8143]

Any insights?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 9:44 am
by bkeat23
HAL is likely to use one fo the D replacements as a PH earlier in the game, messing up the plan as well.

I play a lot in Baker, maybe this particular issue is less prevalent on pitching teams.

Good luck.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:26 pm
by DizandMiles
I had a situation where Bobby Doerr moved from 2nd to DH for three games while Greenberg was hurt and Gallego went to second!? Damn slick managing - when Doerr moved back to second he made 3 errors in six games!

PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:45 pm
by GREGKOESTER
Rose is a viable keeper on a lot of teams. As for the others, Why not? Most teams can afford a questionable starter and every team has questionable replacements. That is how I find some of the guys I use.