This is my 3rd year playing the online game.
In the past month I think Ive seen more sweeps going both ways- for me and against me then I've seen in the entire rest of the time playing.
I've asked a couple of other managers who concur that they are seeing something similar...
No, I dont believe its coincidence. A few sweeps yes, but now Id say I see more than half of my teams either sweep or get swept every night-
What is it?
So, whats changed? Bring out the brooms
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So, whats changed? Bring out the brooms
by Salty » Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:03 am
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by 216 Stitches » Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:00 pm
You seem to be implying some sort of conspiracy theory. I have
an alternative notion:
Manager are better and better at defending their home park,
especially with the larger card sets and stadium selections.
As a note, a league that just finished had only 1 team over .500
on the road but 8 teams at least 10 games over .500 at home.
And the road records almost meant nothing to the playoff spots and
the playoff seedings. The 4 best home records would have went to
the playoffs, but the 5th best actually got a playoff spot on the last
day by winning a tie breaker against the 4th best home record.
Back in ATG4, it seemed that 3 or 4 teams would usually manage
a winning road record on average per league and that the playoff
mix would be common to get 2 dominate home records and two
road warrior teams in the playoff mix.
Not sure that this explains the more sweeps, but just throwing it out there.
an alternative notion:
Manager are better and better at defending their home park,
especially with the larger card sets and stadium selections.
As a note, a league that just finished had only 1 team over .500
on the road but 8 teams at least 10 games over .500 at home.
And the road records almost meant nothing to the playoff spots and
the playoff seedings. The 4 best home records would have went to
the playoffs, but the 5th best actually got a playoff spot on the last
day by winning a tie breaker against the 4th best home record.
Back in ATG4, it seemed that 3 or 4 teams would usually manage
a winning road record on average per league and that the playoff
mix would be common to get 2 dominate home records and two
road warrior teams in the playoff mix.
Not sure that this explains the more sweeps, but just throwing it out there.
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by Salty » Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:08 pm
HEH-
Good response from RFV as usual, because its always good to hear constructive, alternate thoughts.
FIRST: I want to establish that this is in fact a pattern that more than just myself and a few other managers I spoke to about it are seeing.
SECOND: If its a case where the sweeps are usually won by the home team, then we want to find out if the reason is because managers are significantly better at playing to their home ballpark, or some other reason...
I can offer my own thoughts on why, but really they are just theories.
Good response from RFV as usual, because its always good to hear constructive, alternate thoughts.
FIRST: I want to establish that this is in fact a pattern that more than just myself and a few other managers I spoke to about it are seeing.
SECOND: If its a case where the sweeps are usually won by the home team, then we want to find out if the reason is because managers are significantly better at playing to their home ballpark, or some other reason...
I can offer my own thoughts on why, but really they are just theories.
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Sharing a learning philosophy
by 216 Stitches » Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:38 pm
I think its safe to post this here, 'cause I see threads started by
Nev get "outviewed" over threads started by Salt at a 5:1 ratio
or better!!!
Being a newer managers that has to learn a lot to keep pace with
all the vet managers here, I adopted the following point of view
and action:
Under the category of "LUCK" everything gets lumped together,
most significantly (1) things I don't understand, (2) things that
may be a function of the game engine, (3) actual luck.
But if you (actually I) want to progress toward being a better manager,
you have to look at alternative explanations for everything that may
seem like luck (and especially things that look like luck).
So my conclusion? If I am tempted to share wisdom, post it under
a thread started by the Saltman. No one is likely to read it.
Nev get "outviewed" over threads started by Salt at a 5:1 ratio
or better!!!
Being a newer managers that has to learn a lot to keep pace with
all the vet managers here, I adopted the following point of view
and action:
Under the category of "LUCK" everything gets lumped together,
most significantly (1) things I don't understand, (2) things that
may be a function of the game engine, (3) actual luck.
But if you (actually I) want to progress toward being a better manager,
you have to look at alternative explanations for everything that may
seem like luck (and especially things that look like luck).
So my conclusion? If I am tempted to share wisdom, post it under
a thread started by the Saltman. No one is likely to read it.
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by 216 Stitches » Thu Jun 02, 2011 4:28 pm
[quote:93530f4792="River Field View"]
So my conclusion? If I am tempted to share wisdom, post it under
a thread started by the Saltman. No one is likely to read it.[/quote:93530f4792]
Okay so I want to test this theory....
In Nev's thread, he notices that leagues outcomes change a great deal
late in the season. No issue there, I believe I have made the same
observation, and stated so in that thread.
But my belief, and I have seen variations of this statement, is:
run differential is a better indicator of future success than W-L.
Taking it one step further, when I have seen changes to winning % late
in seasons, I started to look at run differentials of teams before the
late season... sure enough, the run differentials were more consistent
with what was going to happen next in the season than the past W-L
records.
I might be right. I might be wrong. But the point is, I won't post this
on Nev's thread. Its not about Nev, really. Nev (or Mike) seems like
a really nice guy and has a lot of passion for strat, like all of us addicts.
Just want to test my hypothesis that Salts threads fly under the radar
is valid.
So my conclusion? If I am tempted to share wisdom, post it under
a thread started by the Saltman. No one is likely to read it.[/quote:93530f4792]
Okay so I want to test this theory....
In Nev's thread, he notices that leagues outcomes change a great deal
late in the season. No issue there, I believe I have made the same
observation, and stated so in that thread.
But my belief, and I have seen variations of this statement, is:
run differential is a better indicator of future success than W-L.
Taking it one step further, when I have seen changes to winning % late
in seasons, I started to look at run differentials of teams before the
late season... sure enough, the run differentials were more consistent
with what was going to happen next in the season than the past W-L
records.
I might be right. I might be wrong. But the point is, I won't post this
on Nev's thread. Its not about Nev, really. Nev (or Mike) seems like
a really nice guy and has a lot of passion for strat, like all of us addicts.
Just want to test my hypothesis that Salts threads fly under the radar
is valid.
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by JOSEPHKENDALL » Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:36 pm
[quote:779fb646dc="River Field View"]Just want to test my hypothesis that Salts threads fly under the radar
is valid.[/quote:779fb646dc]
I believe your hypothesis is correct. No one pays attention. :)
is valid.[/quote:779fb646dc]
I believe your hypothesis is correct. No one pays attention. :)
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by 216 Stitches » Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:45 pm
[quote:9ac88597de="mykeedee"]Nev who? :D[/quote:9ac88597de]
Shouldn't that be:
Nev who? :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Shouldn't that be:
Nev who? :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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