Archive of SportingNews.com's old SOM Baseball forum

PART ONE

I recently passed the 1000 point manager rating threshold in my long and storied ATG career, which now makes my choices for which league to join a little more restrictive, since there have been many "less than (pick a number)" leagues that have come and gone, and 1000 is one of the more popular ones.

It's another hot late summer day, and on a whim, I took a closer look at those all-important manager ratings to see if there's any valid reason to exclude people from your league based on the number of points they've accumulated.

My first thought was, are there any managers out there that I never want to see in the same division as me, because they seem to always make the playoffs, which leaves me fighting for the wildcard? So percentage of playoffs per completed team would seem to be an important consideration. So would overall winning percentage. It seems if you win at least 90 games you're virtually guaranteed of making the playoffs, so playoff % and winning % should go hand-in-hand. Anyone with a winning percentage of .540 or more has probably been successful most of the time. The third consideration has to be a minimum number of teams. You might have a great playoff and winning percentage with 5 or 6 teams, but I think it's more impressive / intimidating if someone's been able to do that with dozens of teams in many ballparks and different salary caps.

I wanted to look at the current batch of active managers we're most likely to encounter in open leagues, but since I have no idea whether I'm looking at completed or still-active teams in ATG6, I decided to look back at ATG5.

PART TWO

The "top 50" managers include everyone who has 700 points or more. Everyone on this list had at least 24 completed teams. So here are the "best of the best" in ATG5:

Highest average rating points per team:
1. springer0432 36.9
2. DonFESQ 35.9
3. King-Charlemagne 35.4
4. BobBoone 31.9
5. Private Jet Mama's Boys 30.0
6. gkhd11a 29.8
7. Coffeeholic 29.5
8. 2cityfan 29.2
9. djmacb 29.1
10. sschu 28.7

Highest winning percentage:
1. King-Charlemagne .583
2. Goreds .557
3. DonFESQ .555
4. BobBoone .549
5. sschu .543
6. springer0432 .542
7. wrz25 .541
8 (tie). gkhd11a .540
djmacb
joekendall
thetallguy747

Percentage of playoff teams:
1. King-Charlemagne 81%
2. DonFESQ 73%
3. Goreds 67%
4. BobBoone 66%
5. Coffeeholic 63%
6. teamsters805 62%
7 (tie). thetallguy747 61%
djmacb
9 (tie). wrz25 60%
springer0432
gkhd11a
DOHowser

Championship percentage:
1. springer0432 37%
2. DonFESQ 30%
3. Coffeeholic 29%
4. teamsters805 26%
5 (tie). Goreds 25%
2cityfan
7 (tie). BobBoone 24%
sschu
Private Jet Mama's Boys
10 (tie). hack wilson 23%
gkhd11a

PART THREE

Extending the criteria just a bit to managers who've had at least 10 ATG5 teams, the following would rank in the top 10:

Highest average rating points per team:
toyboys 40.2
weinberg 33.7
chuckwonup 31.6
estern 30.6
jschnak950 30.5
jmoore1966 30.3

Highest winning percentage:
paige91 .570
DarrinLD .562
chuckwonup .560
nexrad .555
weinberg .553
Hank O .552
AeroDave10 .551

Percentage of playoff teams:
chuckwonup 85%
paige91 76%
weinberg 75%
jschnak950 73%
nexrad 73%
DarrinLD 73%
Maxie Minoso 73%
waldenhd 73%
toyboys 70%

Championship percentage:
jschnak950 36%
cvjs91184 31%
toyboys 30%
estern 30%
whoopycat 27%

PART FOUR

Conclusions: It seems like anyone who averages more than 30 rating points per completed team is probably the best measure of how impressive / intimidating another manager in your league is, although I think that number can be skewed by that silly "Standard" or "Advanced" designation. Someone who plays only in standard leagues and does really well will have lower rating points even if they have a high winning percentage and make the playoffs more than 70% of the time. But that's probably a better measure of who you'd want to exclude from a beginner's league than total points. Clearly guys like DonFESQ and springer0432 aren't novices and their manager rating reflects that. But I think some of the ones that played only a dozen or so teams are more likely to keep you from making the playoffs if they are in your division, even though they may have accumulated "only" 1000 or 2000 points. But when I look at the winning percentages of people that were successful in ATG5 it doesn't neccessarily carry over to ATG6, myself being the best example, but then again the playoff and championship numbers may be artificially low for teams still in progress.

I think Dusty Hill is the best, because he can copy anyone's style.

Wait, what? You mean I'M not in the top 10? 8 years of playing and no love? Oh, the injustice! :P :wink:

It's ok, though. I can console myself with the fact I am going to win my first Fantasy Football game. Last year, I didn't win my first game until Week 4! :twisted:

[quote:696bfd30c6="nevdully's"]I think Dusty Hill is the best, because he can copy anyone's style.[/quote:696bfd30c6]

Would he ever do something like that?
:roll: :shock: :x :x :evil: :evil: :x

He's done it to me more than once has he just done it to you too?


I'd ask him but I've learned he'll just lie about it...or misremember

Someone as successful as DonFESQ can play ... almost for free. If we assume 70% make the playoffs, 50% in the finals and 30% championships, that's 8 credits earned for every 10 teams. Nice.