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Bernie said the plan is to allow multiple versions of two-way players once the new cards are released, which created some controversy on the boards.

In response, he said,
[quote:5fd51a7e19]Ok, I'm totally willing to forego the change and keep Babe Ruth et al. as one entity, if you're sure you're cool with it.

The potential problem would mostly take care of itself in regular/lower caps, but I was more concerned with protecting the integrity of the higher caps, which I know many of you veterans play. I do understand that as a 4-day starter, Ruth would be pitching in most 3-game series, which cuts down on the series one would switch to his hitter card for, but still, he does save a roster spot, and his salary would not be raised to reflect this special exploit.

But hey, if you guys are SURE you're ok with it, then so am I. It's way less work for me to leave it as is. Just confirm that you are, and don't complain about it later.[/quote:5fd51a7e19]

So it appears the ultimate decision to allow multiple versions of two - way players is up to us. What do you think?

[quote:9a66a6fd7a]Ok, this is how we're going to be handling the special case where a player (e.g. Babe Ruth) has one or more hitter cards (1921, 1927) and one or more pitcher cards (1916, to be added on Thursday) in the same player set.

The player's hitter card(s) and pitcher card(s) will be available as 2 separate players, meaning Babe Ruth (or Double Duty Radcliffe, etc.) may exist in a league as a hitter (1927), and separately as a pitcher (1916), even on the same team.

So if you want to use The Babe's 1927 hitter card and 1916 pitcher card on your team at the same time, you can, but you'll have to pay for him twice (though Ruth the Pitcher would bat for himself as a generic 8NL-hitting pitcher in a non-DH league). If his two incarnations are on separate teams, then they can face each other. [/quote:9a66a6fd7a]

[b:9a66a6fd7a]I dont like this. I have no problem having Ruth the pitcher and Ruth the hitter on the same team if the manager is willing to pay for it, but I dont like Ruth facing Ruth. I still want a little "realism", and that aint it[/b:9a66a6fd7a].

I believe he has changed his mind on this and now it will be same as with Joe Wood previously where only one can be in the league. Someone will have to go check to confirm by trying to fill out a draft card and see if they can add both Ruth the pitcher and Ruth the hitter.

[quote:2c1f56723e="Mr. Baseball World"]I believe he has changed his mind on this and now it will be same as with Joe Wood previously where only one can be in the league. Someone will have to go check to confirm by trying to fill out a draft card and see if they can add both Ruth the pitcher and Ruth the hitter.[/quote:2c1f56723e]

This is correct.

I added Ruth the pitcher to my card, and got [b:2c1f56723e]"[color=red:2c1f56723e]You have already selected Babe Ruth."[/color:2c1f56723e][/b:2c1f56723e] when I tried to add Ruth a hitter.

Personally, I'm in favor, for the opposite side of the "Ruth v Ruth" issue.

I don't want to see Ruth bat 9th, get on, then have Ruth, batting third, knock himself in. Or ground into a DP where he is out at second and first on the same play.

If they (Bernie) could code an actual Double Duty card where it's one card, exorbitant price, who could pitch every 4th day and play 1B or RF the other three, yes. But cloning situations bother me.

Prediction: after the initial excitement and novelty, other than in some franchise theme leagues, the Ruth pitching card will be used about as often as Tim Keefe's