For the folks who like to copy teams

[The Last Druid]

Here's one that I like.

New Cards! Petrosian (31016) 106 56 .654 - 49-23 57-33 10-7 28-20 [size=18:1b80629989][b:1b80629989]114-48[/b:1b80629989][/size:1b80629989]

Several guys have messaged me over the past month about teams of mine that they have copied. I know this bothers some managers, but I don't care if people copy my teams or not. Anyway, this team had an expected W-L record of 114-48 which ain't too shabby.

Here's the team which finished the regular season tonight:

http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/stratomatic/team/team_other.html?user_id=347274

They are ranked third in team triples for an 80M league as well. Not sure I have seen a team at this cap with a better pythagorean W-L.

[Measured Mayhem]

Thats the best team in an 80 mil cap I have ever seen. A 106 win team that actually underachieved, an achievement itself. There may be teams with better records in the record books but most of them over achieved into 107-109 wins. I've never seen a team with a 114 Expected W-L. Really took advantage of some pitchers without bp singles in a high bp singles park. I thought my 106 win team that finished up tonight was good but geez.

[Simon31]

They say..."imitation is the sincerest form of flattery!" I would love it if somebody copied one of my teams. Actually...I DARE anyone to copy one of my teams! :lol:
That being said, it would be interesting to follow the "copied" team as there are so many other factors that come into play in doing so. Makeup of other teams in the division, parks in the division etc,. I wonder if anybody has ever "copied" one of their own teams and played in different leagues with it just to see how well it performs? That would provide some fascinating insight! 8-)

[artie4121]

I'm at such a loss for wins right now, I'm willing to try almost anything.

But the problem with this is

a. You'd have to have the same setup of competition in your division and then your league. Ballpark mix, R/L balance, etc.

b. You'd need the same settings and strategy as Petrosian. . . This MUST be at least part of his success. It can't just be his roster. . . can it?

c. The other teams in the league would have to "cooperate" and let you get 100% of your auto-draft picks.

And yes, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Good going Petrosian. . . checkmate.

[rburgh]

I have seen a number of Petrosian teams. It looks to me like all you have to do to stymie him is to put Jim Kern high up on your autodraft list!

:D

[The Last Druid]

Rogers was my closer. Hal didn't like him. Radatz was middle man and set up, slow hook.

Thing that gets me is I was +344. Another team in the league was +199, won 104 games and still had an Exp. W-L of 103. So plus 145 runs over his team only nets me 11 expected wins?? The East division winner was 89-73 and was plus 161 runs with a EV of 97 wins. Again, +183 runs is only worth 17 wins?

[The Last Druid]

I think that most of the guys who copy teams just use the basic template of the team. I doubt there is any expectation of getting all the same guys. And as for settings, I don't believe in bunting or hit and running, except with scrubs.

[artie4121]

Ok. That is one rule. Thanks for that. Although I follow it, what would you say are the two or three most important rules you follow when building? In-season strategy too.

The two or three "MUSTS" and the two or three "MUST NOTS?"

Losing minds want to know. :)

(Great name for my next team.)

Thanks,

Artie

[supertyphoon]

No proof to bear this out, but I think Forbes 57 is the best place for positive run differential.

[DonFESQ]

There's a diminishing returns effect that scales quickly when you start adding on runs above a certain level.

I always like to shoot for outscoring opponents by 100 runs over the course of a season. That's my measure of a successful team. If I do that, I'm usually going to win unless I'm really unlucky or happen to run into a buzzsaw in my division.

When you get to +200 it's a truly outstanding team and an almost certainty to be 100+ wins.

I've had +300 very, very few times. Just a quick look at my 100 win teams yields a
111 win team that was +320 runs
102 wins and +302
104 wins +329
107 win team that was +433 (1304 RS and 871 RA)
108 wins +324
108 wins +345
108 wins +301
104 wins +306
108 wins +310
108 wins +369
107 wins +329
105 wins +322

Of course, the 111 team lost in the semis and my two best teams the +433 and +369 lost in the finals.