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Question about Gb(2b)x

PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:32 pm
by PotKettleBlack
http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/stratomatic/league/boxscore.html?group_id=152829&g_id=6

I have Cano at second 1e3.
I do not move the infield in until the 3rd inning.
In the second inning, Guerrero walks, Pujols GB(2B)x to Cano, and is credited with a single, and Guerrero goes first to third.

Top 3,
Beniquez and Parnell do the same thing. Benni walks, Red GB(2b)X and is safe while Beniquez goes first to third.

I think my understanding of range and X-rolls is flawed. Any help?

WHATS GOING ON HERE

PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:52 pm
by 1787
Im with you , I played strat for along time and I dont understand how that can happen a 1e3 should be gold, I dont read through the play by play very often so Im not sure if my 1 rated fielders have had simular fates,if so I too would like an explanation. I almost always play [1s] at short and second if this can happen why bother and even more bothersome is that takes away some of the integrity of the game.
BILL

PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:23 pm
by modmark46
On the SADV Fielding Chart, under a 1 rated 2b, rolls 1-4 result in a G3 or G2 (Ground outs), followed by the # symbol. That # symbol CAN turn those ground balls in to SI** in two cases; if the fielder is positioned IN defensively, OR if the fielder is responsible for holding a runner on base. With a runner on first, vs a RH hitter, the 1b & 2b men are responsible for holding a runner on base. Perhaps that is what happened in the two incidences you cited?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:22 pm
by rburgh
That is correct. When a RHB is at the plate, and you are holding a runner on first, a 1 2B has a 20% chance of allowing a single on a gbX. With a LHB it would instead be the SS.

With the infield in, you additionally adjust all infielders' range ratings. So a 1e3, when all is said and done, will likely allow baserunners on about 8% of gbX's.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:41 pm
by The Last Druid
Which is why we should have more options on the inf placement.

I didn't know anyone not playing in Petco would check the inf to come in routinely in the third inning. I'm not happy having the infield forced to come in from the 5th inning on. With all the hitting in ATG I would only want the inf in in one run games in the 8th or ninth. Never understood why we don't get more options with this. In most situations, I'd rather get the DP and cede the damned run rather than allow a potential big inning.

With the onset of the super advanced rules twenty some years ago and the specific fielders having to be responsible for holding guys on depending on the handedness of the batter, I've always thought that Strat should revise the fielding charts to have defensive ratings of 1-6 instead of 1-5. Let the real 1's not be penalized by this.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:37 pm
by Valen
Expanding the field ratings from 1-5 to 1-6 would have compatability with previously created cards. Strato would have to issue new ratings for every card it has produced. Having said that I like your idea a great deal.

While they are at it though I might increase the range further. Perhaps 1-10. Double the ratings for all existing fielders which might overcome the compatability problems. Then new cards issued could use the newly created "gap ratings". So where currently a player is rated a 1 it would become a 2 in the new ratings and fielding charts. While players who possibly only received a 1 because somebody in a given year had to be rated could be assigned a 3.

Alas, such changes would have to be done by strat and no matter how brilliant your idea is the game company will never read it because they have nobody monitoring these boards.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:39 pm
by PotKettleBlack
I forgot to set the settings, thus INF in 3rd. I agree, that we should be able to put that anywhere from 1st through never.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:07 pm
by macnole
[quote:a6b909d1ec="PotKettleBlack"]I forgot to set the settings, thus INF in 3rd. I agree, that we should be able to put that anywhere from 1st through never.[/quote:a6b909d1ec]

Absolutely. And IMO, this is more important than adding cards. Should be easy speezy.

I would use never most of the time. After all, why would you have the inf in when you're down by 6, or up by 6...just inane.