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Jeter, Derek (2009)

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:45 pm
by cristano1
Can someone explain to me how Derek Jeter 2009 card is the best in the entire ATG6 set? This is based on all cards with over 60,000 plate appearances, or the equivalent of 100 seasons.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:49 pm
by Valen
By what measuring system or by whom is Jeter card called the best?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:50 pm
by cristano1
It looks at all managers who used the Jeter card on a team they built on sportingnews. The Jeter teams average the most wins.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:03 pm
by djmacb
Diamond Dope has him at 0.477 over 178 seasons

Bad data somewhere

Jeter, Derek (2009) R SS-2e10 7.06 116,173 34,762 3,091 325 2,059 10,924 18,457 4,080 1,352 1,697 0.299 0.359 0.385 88.46 [b:946d431b46]0.477 [/b:946d431b46] 178

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:14 pm
by cristano1
couldnt "bad data" come out after this post made someone draft him in the finals first? Managers like Petro are "copy everything" managers. I was hoping he would use him on a few teams first.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:22 pm
by Valen
I doubt there could be enough data that quickly to go from best winning percentage to 0.477. I would be shocked if the 2009 card was a winning card for anyone in ATG. Perhaps you were looking at data from the acutal 2009 game. Maybe he does well there where there are not so many great shortstops. In ATG that card is just not going to hit with all those bad clutch slots and defense comparatively speaking will be weakness.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:22 pm
by The Rivs
This thread is full of so many confusing statements that I don't know what we are talking about. :? If you look at the dope Willie wells leads with most uses as well 2nd highest win pct behind Wagner's 7.92 mil card. No?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:24 pm
by The Rivs
The 7.06 Jeter card does just fine in 100mil. I use him there constantly.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:44 pm
by motherscratcher
[quote:702ed1a69d="weinberg"]couldnt "bad data" come out after this post made someone draft him in the finals first? Managers like Petro are "copy everything" managers. I was hoping he would use him on a few teams first.[/quote:702ed1a69d]

If I am to understand this correctly, what you were trying to do here was trick Petro (the "copying manager") into drafting Jeter in the finals, thereby ruining his team with an overpriced SS....or something to that effect. This plan was ruined when djmacb prematurely posted the bad data.

I'm not sure why you think Petro would give even 1/4 of a **** what your opinion of Jeter is.

Nevertheless, that plan is diabolical. Even if it's diabolical in a LLoyd Christmas kind of way.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:22 pm
by djmacb
Sorry to ruin your plan Weinberg. I'm sure Petrosian would have been completely taken in. :roll: