How do you know if an RP has a closer rating or not?

[Munich_Man]

I've seen several people mention this and how it supposedly affects RP usage, although the "closer" function is apparently not active for ATG.

I don't see how to see this in the "how to read a pitcher's card" descritpion, and, never having played the game before here, don't know where to find it.

Help anyone? Also some additional comments on how HAL uses "closers", although we aren't supposed to have them, would be welcome.

thanks.

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[modmark46]

MM, this is what I think they are referring to -
Look at two reliever only cards, for an example. [b:fd899eebde]Woodie Fryman [/b:fd899eebde]is a popular reliever. Over to the right of his card, at the top, you will see:
pitcher-2 relief (3)/N@ This tells you he can relieve in to his third inning before reaching his endurance inning, i.e. giving up 3 hits and/or walks in the third inning would cause him to become fatigued. The N after the backslash tells you he does not have a closer rating. That means, if the Closer option IS being used in ATG2, as soon as he is in a CLOSER situation, he is fatigued. Now, look at [b:fd899eebde]D. McMahon[/b:fd899eebde]: pitcher-2 relief (1)/2@. McMahon HAS a Closer rating. He does not become fatigued until AFTER he has a allowed two hits and/or walks while in a CLOSER situation. Basically, any pitcher with a number after the backslash is rated to Close, and can get at least one out before the fatigue factor kicks in. Any pitcher not given a number after the backslash (N), IF in a CLOSER situation, starts out with his fatigue factor in effect. That is my understanding, at least. Hope I explained it right. :)

[egvrich]

My understanding is that the CLOSER option is not in use. So, you are not required to have a CLOSER in your pen.

BUT, when it comes time for HAL to choose which reliever to bring into a game, if he is choosing between one with a closer rating and one without a closer rating, he will generally choose the one with a closer rating first.

[Rob55]

I thought the -2- in the McMahon example stood for OUTS..... and this seems to back that up

Closer Rule

Each reliever is given a second rating next to his Relief Endurance rating which we will refer to as his "Closer Endurance". For example, a pitcher who is rated "relief (2/3) has a Relief Endurance of 2 and a Closer Endurance of 3. The Closer Endurance rating is a measure of how many outs a pitcher can maintain his effectiveness in "Closer situations". The rating ranges between 0 and 6, or "N" which means he is not used as a closer


Rick.... for the above rule and all the genreal rules look here

[url=http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/btf/pages/basesim/somrules.htm]rules[/url]

[cplake]

The closer rating is based on outs, not innings.

[Rob55]

cpl.... i don't think any of us thought it was innings. modmark says its hits/walks and i tought it was outs.... which the rule i posted kind of verifies as does your post ....

[cplake]

Just clearing up a common misconception.

[egvrich]

Everything I have ever read indicates it is outs (not batters, hits, walks or innings).

[modmark46]

Yes, you all are correct, it is OUTS, not hits and/or walks. Sorry, just me confusing various versions of SOM rules, BASIC, ADVANCED, SUPER ADVANCED, etc..., and probably mixing in some of my own. :)

[PJ Axelsson]

I thought it stood for runs allowed. That would explain how HAL uses my closers... :roll: