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I'm in the mood for hitting teams these days....what are some of the best ways to build such teams? What pitchers, starting and bullpen, are most effective in hitting parks, and which position players are best bang-per-buck?
Appreciate your thoughts. :lol:

How long of a list do you want Hack ? There's so many good hitter for hitters parks . Some personal faves are Simmons , Hank , Yaz, Hack ,Ruth , Mick , Duke , Mays ( but you can never get him ) . Starting pitchers are the thing to figure out which ones work in which parks . IF : Coop, Rajah, Yount, Mathews, Cal, Rolfe , Boyer, Gehringer, Red , Murray . Catchers , Carter, Dickey , Freehan , Campy , Lollar, to name a few . Pen : Garber , Garber ,Garber Garber and Lefferts or Richert. Perranoski depending on the park . Good D , ok SP and a strong pen with hitting , makes for a fun season . :D

Best values:

C:
Milt May hands down
Campy can rack awesome numbers

1B:
Ripper or McCovey
Foxx will have high OBP and 50 HRs

2B:
Avila - always hits .340
Rogers of course

3B:
Bando - thrives in hitters parks
Brett

SS:
Banks

LF:
Ennis
Cleon - terrific leadoff guy at Fenway 67

CF:
DiMaggio
Mays

RF:
Aaron
Reggie Jackson - consistently outperforms his card


My best slugging team/ring team lineup:
Campy
Ripper
Avila
Brett
Banks
Cleon
Mays
Reggie Jackson

Brett/DiMag or Brett/Mays is a formidable combo.

FWIIW, sschu

Here's a fun strategy I'm trying right now: I'm trying to duplicate my Fantasim strategy by using cheap pitchers with good WHIP and then grabbing as much offense as I can. So I loaded the top of my draft card with Knepper/Boyd/Nolan/Cuellar and then built my offense from waivers.

So far so good, team is 17-10 and leading the league in scoring playing in Ebbets:

http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/baseball/stratomatic/atg2/team/team_other.html?user_id=110958

Jackson, R. L RF 2(-5)e10 603 94 23 27 111 61 6 10 .280 .459 .351 2R 7.83M Ebbets53 80M
Jackson, R. L RF 2(-5)e10 630 90 32 29 89 54 6 11 .264 .459 .328 2R 7.83M Tiger68 80M

Never say always, sschu. Aaron is a much safer bet. Reggie is easier to get in the autodraft but seems more prone to extended power outages. Alou's not a bad 2 hitter with his low DPs and OF flexibility. I personally like to cheap at 1 position with a platoon (Nettles/Wera, Roseboro/Steinbach) to help the pitching and/or load up other positions even heavier.

My Dream team in fenway '67...

C - Gedman (don't laugh, will hit 30-40 hrs and drive in 80-100 for 1.5!)
1B - Gehrig
2B - Morgan
SS - Yount
3B - Bando
CF - Thomas
RF - Simmons (many players you could plug in here)
LF - Alou (or RF)

(Could flip out Mays for Thomas, and go with an Ennis type in Lf...but I rarely try for Mays anymore, almost impossible to get, and Thomas can put up HUGE numbers here!)

SP's - Leever, Ruether, Cvengros, Frock, Speer, Vance, (you know the type :wink: )
RP's - Lefferts, Garber, Murphy, Riddle

Funny thing is, if I don't get Morgan, I don't win in Fenway. Don't ask me why, that is just the way it is! :)

From my Fenway '67 teams, here are the players and runs created/4 at bats:


Mantle, M. 1.685
Hornsby, R. 1.296
Ruth, B. 1.288
Mantle, M. 1.273
Hornsby, R. 1.251
Hornsby, R. 1.234
Ott, M. 1.171
Mathews, E. 1.142
Selkirk, G. 1.102
Mays, W. 1.071
Yount, R. 1.070
Mays, W. 1.036
Mays, W. 1.022
Yount, R. 1.006
Bailey, E. 1.005
Yount, R. 0.976
Yount, R. 0.967
Cepeda, O. 0.964
Selkirk, G. 0.960
Morgan, J. 0.947
Yount, R. 0.933
Yount, R. 0.929
Banks, E. 0.927
Lemon, C. 0.922
Mathews, E. 0.911
Simmons, A. 0.911
Cobb, T. 0.910
Jones, C. 0.910
Cepeda, O. 0.908
Yount, R. 0.868
Yastrzemski, C. 0.864
Murray, E. 0.857
Bernazard, T. 0.848
Adcock, J. 0.836
Mathews, E. 0.802
Selkirk, G. 0.801
Money, D. 0.788
Carter, G. 0.788
Barfield, J. 0.783
Canseco, J. 0.772
Cooper, C. 0.755
Valentine, E. 0.752
Morgan, J. 0.747
Jones, C. 0.745
McCovey, W. 0.745
Cepeda, O. 0.742
Cuyler, K. 0.737
Bailey, E. 0.735
Carter, G. 0.728
Dickey, B. 0.727
Thomas, G. 0.727
Oglivie, B. 0.722
Belardi, W. 0.722
Cey, R. 0.704
May, M. 0.698
Cooper, C. 0.690
Bailey, E. 0.688
Brouhard, M. 0.664
Ennis, D. 0.664
Rice, S. 0.656
Simmons, T. 0.656
Gordon, J. 0.655
Buford, D. 0.650
Clarke, F. 0.649
Rice, S. 0.648
Heathcote, C. 0.644
May, M. 0.643
Doby, L. 0.627
Agee, T. 0.624
Prothro, D. 0.624
Kurowski, W. 0.620
Jones, W. 0.616
Wera, J. 0.603
Dahlgren, B. 0.601
May, M. 0.590
Henderson, D. 0.581
Belardi, W. 0.571
Schoendienst, R. 0.565
Schaefer, G. 0.532
Schaefer, G. 0.527
Mincher, D. 0.500
Simmons, T. 0.475
Doran, B. 0.475
Gaspar, R. 0.473
Belardi, W. 0.462
Davis, K. 0.457
Alou, M. 0.450
Paskert, D. 0.445
Schaefer, G. 0.445
Gonzalez, M. 0.435
Wera, J. 0.427
Wera, J. 0.422
Gaspar, R. 0.419
Belardi, W. 0.388
Bishop, M. 0.377
Nettles, G. 0.374
Taylor, Z. 0.373
Pafko, A. 0.371
Gaspar, R. 0.349
Bochy, B. 0.341
Collins, S. 0.316
Gaspar, R. 0.312
Burns, E. 0.272
Wood, J. 0.267
Gaspar, R. 0.245
Gonzalez, M. 0.188
Davis, K. 0.180
Gaspar, R. 0.171
Wera, J. 0.099
Belardi, W. 0.000

And here are the pitchers with ERA and WHIP:


Name ERA -- WHIP
Eckersley, D. 2.81 -- 1.05
Schultz, B. 2.95 -- 1.10
Coveleski, S. 3.51 -- 1.40
Russell, A. 3.58 -- 1.60
Ford, W. 3.72 -- 1.39
Ford, W. 4.01 -- 1.33
Bagby Sr., J. 4.29 -- 1.49
Coveleski, S. 4.30 -- 1.49
Staley, G. 4.30 -- 1.52
Speer, K. 4.39 -- 1.56
Quisenberry, D. 4.50 -- 1.53
Adams, B. 4.62 -- 1.50
Coveleski, S. 4.64 -- 1.43
Fosnow, J. 4.65 -- 1.61
Vance, D. 4.68 -- 1.59
Speer, K. 4.69 -- 1.48
Borbon, P. 4.76 -- 1.54
Giusti, D. 4.77 -- 1.64
Fosnow, J. 4.85 -- 1.56
Rommel, E. 4.86 -- 1.63
Rommel, E. 5.00 -- 1.60
Bagby Sr., J. 5.05 -- 1.50
Frock, S. 5.08 -- 1.68
Fosnow, J. 5.08 -- 1.75
Fosnow, J. 5.11 -- 1.53
Bagby Jr., J. 5.25 -- 1.69
Bagby Jr., J. 5.26 -- 1.79
Rommel, E. 5.30 -- 1.68
McEnaney, W. 5.33 -- 1.71
Frock, S. 5.51 -- 1.78
Bagby Jr., J. 5.52 -- 1.75
Rommel, E. 5.53 -- 1.65
Hughes, J. 5.59 -- 1.72
Cvengros, M. 5.61 -- 1.73
Nelson, G. 5.67 -- 1.73
Bagby Sr., J. 5.71 -- 1.68
Frock, S. 5.79 -- 1.77
Speer, K. 5.91 -- 1.77
Pina, H. 5.97 -- 1.62
Yerkes, C. 5.97 -- 2.06
Tincup, B. 6.00 -- 1.61
Rommel, E. 6.04 -- 1.81
Speer, K. 6.10 -- 1.76
Osteen, C. 6.11 -- 1.76
Cvengros, M. 6.11 -- 1.87
Cvengros, M. 6.18 -- 1.83
Hughes, J. 6.20 -- 1.84
McEnaney, W. 6.23 -- 1.42
Vance, D. 6.27 -- 1.75
Vance, D. 6.33 -- 1.88
Hernandez, W. 6.35 -- 1.58
Yerkes, C. 6.37 -- 1.98
Rommel, E. 6.39 -- 1.66
Bagby Jr., J. 6.40 -- 1.86
Frock, S. 6.42 -- 1.81
Baumgartner, S. 6.43 -- 1.73
Vuckovich, P. 6.48 -- 1.80
Palmer, J. 6.57 -- 1.74
Pennock, H. 6.63 -- 1.81
Ruether, D. 6.68 -- 1.76
Mogridge, G. 6.76 -- 1.60
Borbon, P. 6.79 -- 1.90
Knowles, D. 6.83 -- 1.75
Garman, M. 6.85 -- 1.78
Yerkes, C. 6.87 -- 1.91
Murphy, J. 6.91 -- 1.75
Aguilera, R. 6.98 -- 1.77
Speer, K. 7.01 -- 1.88
Forsch, B. 7.03 -- 1.88
Hooton, B. 7.12 -- 1.73
Cvengros, M. 7.27 -- 2.09
Garman, M. 7.49 -- 2.03
McEnaney, W. 7.80 -- 1.67
Phillippe, D. 7.90 -- 1.94
Bagby Jr., J. 7.99 -- 2.14
Johnson, E. 8.04 -- 1.94
Garman, M. 8.73 -- 2.03
Newhouser, H. 8.96 -- 2.19
Knowles, D. 9.19 -- 2.15
Miller, B. 9.32 -- 2.25
Henke, T. 10.81 -- 2.04

One important thing I've found is the pinch hitter. Not worth spending a few mil on them, but guys with ballpark homers like Belardi or Wera can be very useful.

Bailey with a defensive backup is a good bet and easy to get.

Ott and Selkirk can be gotten pretty easily and in hitters parks will really hit like you want them to.

Speer is critical, because he's cheap and can pitch very effectively anywhere. Ford, Bagby Sr., and Coveleski have all done well for me.

Double plays can prevent huge innings, so you gotta maximize them on defense and minimize them on offense.