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[spicki17]

[b:13c73a78c0]lucky[/b:13c73a78c0], you had a few observations that are correct, but most i dont agree with.

first off halladay is priced right. he is equal to clemens w/out a star (he is better than clemens in a pitchers park, about equal but maybe a little worse in a hitters park). harden is much worse than both of them (like .4 worse ERA in a hitters park and like .9 in a pitchers park), plus add in the s6 versus s7. that is why he is priced less than them. in terms of king, i agree with you. he is worse than both halladay and clemens, a little better than harden.

pitching numbers dont tell much since its hard to calculate ERA off them, but here's what i have:

(pitcher_name, obp_points_v_left, slg_pts_v_left, obp_pts_v_right, slg_pts_v_right)

clemens: 12, 8 16, 11
halladay: 10, 10 13, 22
king: 14, 7 18, 17
harden: 19, 6 18, 17

like i said, they dont tell me that much just looking at them. i mean it looks to me that they justify my claims, but maybe that is just because i want them to. either way, from what i have simulated and what i have calculated, it puts clemens and halladay as relative ERA-wise, with king next (but still .2 to .3 worse), followed by harden (with the ERA differences i pointed out above). add in the s6, and i think harden is priced right.

one more point. even if you think clemens is overpriced, when you get clemens, and you get a pitcher who is the best pitcher in the set, you know that every time he pitches, he has the best chance of winning. every time he goes up against another big * sp, he has the best chance of winning. to me, that adds about .5 or so million dollars to his value. thats just me.

[cummings2]

Cumulative Draft:
stevep107: Abreu, Edmonds, Crawford, Mauer, Rollins, Dunn, D. Bell, B. Colon, N. Lowry, Capuano, Ameriquest
Cummings2: A-Rod, L.Castillo, Ichiro, D.Wright, D.Lee, Fenway, duffy, B.J. Ryan, G. Anderson, Lofton, Shields
spicki17: clemens, mramirez, tejada, heilman, chavez, gibbons, spivey, branyan, linebrink, us cell, bradley
maligned: Jones, Helton, Ensberg, O. Hudson, o.vizquel, Harden, small, beckett, hampton, bedard
mcsoupy: Willis, Giambi, Floyd, Buerhle, Belliard, Sizemore, Kotsay, dolphins, Schneider, Chacin, Mulder
Marcus Wilby: Martinez, R. Johnson, Zambrano, Roberts, J.Wilson, Wagner, Podsednik, Polanco, José_Molina, Drew, Sexson,
LMBombers: Cabrera, Carpenter, Minute Maid, Gomes, Shelton, Figgins, Furcal, J. Guillen, Barajas, Sullivan, Seanez
Charlie M2: Hernandez, Teixeira, Duke, Jeter, Seo, H. Matsui, Damon, Mora, Kazmir, Rogers, Iguchi
Kaviksdad: Santana, Guerrero, Peavy, Griffey, Young, D. Davis, M. Rivera, Murton, A. Everett, A. Ramirez
odieworks: Ortiz, T. Clark, Berkman, Chipper, Zito, V Martinez, Tropicana, Carrasco, Francoeur, Garland
Qksilver: Pettitte, B Giles, Hafner, R Howard, Utley, Valentin, DeJesus, Sabathia, Reyes, Betemit
Sknsfan: Pujols, Bay, Kent, Glaus, Lugo, McAfee, Smoltz, Lidge, Glavine, Gonzalez, Taveras


ROUND 11
121. stevep107 - Ameriquest
122. Cummings2 - Scott Shields
123. spicki17 - milton bradley
124. maligned - e. bedard
125. mcsoupy - M. Mulder
126. marcus wilby - Richie Sexson (proxy)
127. LMBombers - Rudy Seanez
128. cminton - Iguchi
129. kaviksdad -
130. odieworks -
131. qksilver -
132. maligned (via trade w/sknsfan) -

ROUND 12
133. maligned (via trade w/sknsfan) -
134. qksilver -
135. odieworks -
136. kaviksdad -
137. cminton -
138. LMBombers -
139. marcus wilby -
140. mcsoupy -
141. maligned -
142. spicki17 -
143. cummings2 -
144. stevep107 -

[qksilver69]

Just a reminder...

[kaviksdad]

Cumulative Draft:
stevep107: Abreu, Edmonds, Crawford, Mauer, Rollins, Dunn, D. Bell, B. Colon, N. Lowry, Capuano, Ameriquest
Cummings2: A-Rod, L.Castillo, Ichiro, D.Wright, D.Lee, Fenway, duffy, B.J. Ryan, G. Anderson, Lofton, Shields
spicki17: clemens, mramirez, tejada, heilman, chavez, gibbons, spivey, branyan, linebrink, us cell, bradley
maligned: Jones, Helton, Ensberg, O. Hudson, o.vizquel, Harden, small, beckett, hampton, bedard
mcsoupy: Willis, Giambi, Floyd, Buerhle, Belliard, Sizemore, Kotsay, dolphins, Schneider, Chacin, Mulder
Marcus Wilby: Martinez, R. Johnson, Zambrano, Roberts, J.Wilson, Wagner, Podsednik, Polanco, José_Molina, Drew, Sexson,
LMBombers: Cabrera, Carpenter, Minute Maid, Gomes, Shelton, Figgins, Furcal, J. Guillen, Barajas, Sullivan, Seanez
Charlie M2: Hernandez, Teixeira, Duke, Jeter, Seo, H. Matsui, Damon, Mora, Kazmir, Rogers, Iguchi
Kaviksdad: Santana, Guerrero, Peavy, Griffey, Young, D. Davis, M. Rivera, Murton, A. Everett, A. Ramirez; Vargas
odieworks: Ortiz, T. Clark, Berkman, Chipper, Zito, V Martinez, Tropicana, Carrasco, Francoeur, Garland
Qksilver: Pettitte, B Giles, Hafner, R Howard, Utley, Valentin, DeJesus, Sabathia, Reyes, Betemit
Sknsfan: Pujols, Bay, Kent, Glaus, Lugo, McAfee, Smoltz, Lidge, Glavine, Gonzalez, Taveras


ROUND 11
121. stevep107 - Ameriquest
122. Cummings2 - Scott Shields
123. spicki17 - milton bradley
124. maligned - e. bedard
125. mcsoupy - M. Mulder
126. marcus wilby - Richie Sexson (proxy)
127. LMBombers - Rudy Seanez
128. cminton - Iguchi
129. kaviksdad - J. Vargas
130. odieworks -
131. qksilver -
132. maligned (via trade w/sknsfan) -

ROUND 12
133. maligned (via trade w/sknsfan) -
134. qksilver -
135. odieworks -
136. kaviksdad -
137. cminton -
138. LMBombers -
139. marcus wilby -
140. mcsoupy -
141. maligned -
142. spicki17 -
143. cummings2 -
144. stevep107 -

Guess I should have left proxies with someone else too - sorry guys

[maligned]

LM--I'm sending you my picks 132/133. If even one of them isn't available, please don't pick either of them...I'll check in first thing in the morning.

[LMBombers]

Sorry kaviksdad. I went out to eat and just got back. I'll try to do better next time.

[cminton]

Is it me or are we drafting much faster than we expected? Nice job guys...

[odieworks]

Sorry for the delay. Eagles just won -- too close! Thanks to Mcsoupy and Kaviksdad, I don't have to choose between Mulder and Vargas!

Cumulative Draft:
stevep107: Abreu, Edmonds, Crawford, Mauer, Rollins, Dunn, D. Bell, B. Colon, N. Lowry, Capuano, Ameriquest
Cummings2: A-Rod, L.Castillo, Ichiro, D.Wright, D.Lee, Fenway, duffy, B.J. Ryan, G. Anderson, Lofton, Shields
spicki17: clemens, mramirez, tejada, heilman, chavez, gibbons, spivey, branyan, linebrink, us cell, bradley
maligned: Jones, Helton, Ensberg, O. Hudson, o.vizquel, Harden, small, beckett, hampton, bedard
mcsoupy: Willis, Giambi, Floyd, Buerhle, Belliard, Sizemore, Kotsay, dolphins, Schneider, Chacin, Mulder
Marcus Wilby: Martinez, R. Johnson, Zambrano, Roberts, J.Wilson, Wagner, Podsednik, Polanco, José_Molina, Drew, Sexson,
LMBombers: Cabrera, Carpenter, Minute Maid, Gomes, Shelton, Figgins, Furcal, J. Guillen, Barajas, Sullivan, Seanez
Charlie M2: Hernandez, Teixeira, Duke, Jeter, Seo, H. Matsui, Damon, Mora, Kazmir, Rogers, Iguchi
Kaviksdad: Santana, Guerrero, Peavy, Griffey, Young, D. Davis, M. Rivera, Murton, A. Everett, A. Ramirez; Vargas
odieworks: Ortiz, T. Clark, Berkman, Chipper, Zito, V Martinez, Tropicana, Carrasco, Francoeur, Garland, Blanton
Qksilver: Pettitte, B Giles, Hafner, R Howard, Utley, Valentin, DeJesus, Sabathia, Reyes, Betemit
Sknsfan: Pujols, Bay, Kent, Glaus, Lugo, McAfee, Smoltz, Lidge, Glavine, Gonzalez, Taveras


ROUND 11
121. stevep107 - Ameriquest
122. Cummings2 - Scott Shields
123. spicki17 - milton bradley
124. maligned - e. bedard
125. mcsoupy - M. Mulder
126. marcus wilby - Richie Sexson (proxy)
127. LMBombers - Rudy Seanez
128. cminton - Iguchi
129. kaviksdad - J. Vargas
130. odieworks - Blanton
131. qksilver -
132. maligned (via trade w/sknsfan) -

ROUND 12
133. maligned (via trade w/sknsfan) -
134. qksilver -
135. odieworks -
136. kaviksdad -
137. cminton -
138. LMBombers -
139. marcus wilby -
140. mcsoupy -
141. maligned -
142. spicki17 -
143. cummings2 -
144. stevep107 -

[qksilver69]

ROUND 11
121. stevep107 - Ameriquest
122. Cummings2 - Scott Shields
123. spicki17 - milton bradley
124. maligned - e. bedard
125. mcsoupy - M. Mulder
126. marcus wilby - Richie Sexson (proxy)
127. LMBombers - Rudy Seanez
128. cminton - Iguchi
129. kaviksdad - J. Vargas
130. odieworks - Blanton
131. qksilver - Eyre
132. maligned (via trade w/sknsfan) -

ROUND 12
133. maligned (via trade w/sknsfan) -
134. qksilver -
135. odieworks -
136. kaviksdad -
137. cminton -
138. LMBombers -
139. marcus wilby -
140. mcsoupy -
141. maligned -
142. spicki17 -
143. cummings2 -
144. stevep107 -

[maligned]

ROUND 11
121. stevep107 - Ameriquest
122. Cummings2 - Scott Shields
123. spicki17 - milton bradley
124. maligned - e. bedard
125. mcsoupy - M. Mulder
126. marcus wilby - Richie Sexson (proxy)
127. LMBombers - Rudy Seanez
128. cminton - Iguchi
129. kaviksdad - J. Vargas
130. odieworks - Blanton
131. qksilver - Eyre
132. maligned (via trade w/sknsfan) - B.Molina

ROUND 12
133. maligned (via trade w/sknsfan) - L.Walker
134. qksilver -
135. odieworks -
136. kaviksdad -
137. cminton -
138. LMBombers -
139. marcus wilby -
140. mcsoupy -
141. maligned -
142. spicki17 -
143. cummings2 -
144. stevep107 -