OBP/HBP oddity

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OBP/HBP oddity

Postby Ragnarokpc » Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:38 am

Just an odd quirk I have found when searching for guys who have or have not been hit by a pitch. I have one player I just picked up (Joel Youngblood) who has a total of six at-bats - 3 vs. LHP and 3 vs. RHP. He went 1-3 against both. But mysteriously, vs. LHP he has BA/SLG/OBP of .333/.333/.333; vs. RHP, .333/.333/.250. Where is this fourth plate appearance vs. RHP? He had a Sac Fly . . . so this doesn't count as an AB, counts against your OBP? Is there no other way to find out if you have been HBP? That has been one way I have been eliminating years . . . if you had been hit by a pitch, then you can eliminate any years the player didn't get hit . . .
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his fourth plate apperance

Postby roofinghorse » Sun Sep 10, 2006 5:53 am

was that he hit into a double play and they add an extra out for making 2 outs with 1 at bat.check it out and see if i,m correct.
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Postby Proverbial Psalms » Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:46 am

I'd check to see if it were a sacfly.

Sac Flies DO count as a plate appearance for onbase pct... but sac bunts do not. One site I saw said the sac flies counting in OBP started in 1984 (I don't remember such a change, but what can I remeber from 22 years ago now??!!).

I guess the logic is that a sac bunt is INTENTIONALLY giving up your attempt to reach base, where a sac-fly is a TRY for a hit that ends up with an out.. even though in some siutations players do try to loft a fly ball because it'll either be a hit or at least a sac-fly.

I'm not sure there's any better way to check HBP's than to go thru each and every game's boxscore. Annoying? Yes. Worth it? Sometimes.
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