Hoyt or Alexander?

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Hoyt or Alexander?

Postby Ducky » Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:47 am

Which one do you guys prefer pitching in Fenway, Hoyt or Alexander? I have watched Hoyt have some real good seasons for other teams, but have never drafted him. He has that one bad card that scares me, but has some real good seasons as well. Alexander isn't fantastic, but very consistent. You pretty much know what you are going to get with him.

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Postby Outta Leftfield » Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:17 pm

Hoyt might be risky in Fenway. He has a low WHIP but is very prone to HR, both natural and BPHR. My sense is that his natural habitat is the big low-homer parks....
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Postby YountFan » Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:23 pm

Hoyt's low WHIP is due to the few walks he gives up. He is a good fit for fenway as the slugging on his cards is low in general. Alexander can be good also. I would call it a toss up.

Fenway is not really the homer haven people think it is. It's 9-5 as I recall (that makes it a pitchers park, the high BP (19-15?) singles make it a hitters park). Not exactly the Kingdome. Ask seanreflex, he plays inFenway alot!
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Which one?

Postby honestiago1 » Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:42 pm

Hoyt has a couple of years that are going to be problematic in Fenway -- '86 and 84 (though '84 is a usable year). In '84, he has a high triple rating on 5-4 and a NPHR on 5-6 (at 1-18). Scary (but that's only if you get '84. '86 is just plain mediocre.

I don't dig Hoyt's Hits-innings at all. I'd rather he walked a few more and give up fewer extra base hits. However, he seems to me to be the better value. His best years seem better than Doyle's, and even his usable poor ERA card ('84) is strong against RH's. Both pitchers are good GB pitcher's (often with two GB-SS-X's in profitable locations).

Personally, I don't dig either of these guys. Too many hits allowed. I'd rather they walk a few more, since you can only advance one base on a walk. They are both serviceable pitcher's, however, for their price range. Hell, get 'em both and see who does better! :D
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Postby Ducky » Fri Oct 28, 2005 1:55 pm

Thanks for the input guys. I've had Alexander in Fenway and he ended up with an ERA over 5. Not great, not horrible. I have him in Comiskey right now in the Under 4 over 5 league and he has a WHIP of 1.05 with and ERA of 3.28. Pretty good. My other starters on the new Fenway team are Soto, Bosio and Viola. What I'd really like is to be able trade Bosio for Morris or Stieb, one of the righties who are tougher on lefties and then bring in Hoyt. I think that would give the rotation a little better mix.

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