Jackson & Allen with 150+ RBI?

[Larryrickenbacker]

Howdy,

I recently finished playing in a league wherein Reggie Jackson has 155 RBI and his Fulton County teammate Richie Allen had 162 RBI.
Aren't these numbers unrealisitcally high?
Yes, I know that in his actual playing days Jax played in Oakland Alameda Co., a notorious "pitcher's park", while in our SOM league, he benefitted from Fulton Co. But for both of these guys to have such astronomical RBI counts seems unrealistic to me. Anyone else? Does it appear that SOM favors hitting, specifically sluggers?

Larry

[JONCHUCKERY]

Larry,

check out the record's page for the 70's game and you'll see crazier things than your results...I've had D Parker hit 57HRs and 160+RBI, Reggie has hit 60+HRs for me so its rather norm for SOM. I recently won a ring in Royals and still had to score over 800 runs just to make the playoffs. It took Rice, Carew, and Rose all knocking in over 100+ runs just to win a division in Royals.

[Larryrickenbacker]

Howdy,

JMC316: Thanks for posting; so are you agreeing that SOM is slanted in favor of the hitter? I'm sorry if I sound naive, but I grew up in the low-scoring 70s, attending Astros games in the 'Dome. See my point of view?

Larry

PS: For guys like Jackson and Richie Allen to get 150+ RBI on grass (even [i:354742d8e7]at[/i:354742d8e7] Fulton Co. Stadium!) stretches credibility in my book.

[Jablowmi]

It's an All-Star game. Plus, you've taken two great hitters and put them in a huge offensive stadium (particularly, Jackson). Don't understand why this would surprise anybody that's played more than a season or two.

[wryoung]

Many leagues have 4 to 6 Fulton Counties and a couple Fenways meaning that a majority of games are played in hitters parks. When that is added to the all star concept it forces everything toward offense.

You can build teams that compete based on pitching and defense, but some of those defenders had better hit too. I currently have a team based around Seaver, Gibson, Jenkins and Perry sitting at 81-60. All 4 pitchers are doing well, but my offense has been good. Jackson, Garvey, Brock and Murphy are having good years and Sundberg and M. Wills are playing well above any of their cards. If I hadn't lucked into what seems like an above average year offensively for my group the team is probably a .500 team instead.

It seems a little easier to build a team of hitters and luck into decent pitching than the other way around.

[YountFan]

who was hitting in front of them?

[neilm100]

I have Jackson and right now he has 21 homers and 67 rbi, playing in Jarry Park. I also have Killebrew hitting 47 homers and 125 rbi. Go figure.. :cry:

[MRichards16]

I had Rice and Aaron put up similar statistics in one season in Fenway:

Rice: 57 HR, 181 RBI, 142 R
Aaron: 59 HR, 143 RBI, 128 R

The stadiums in my division were HR friendly (2 Fulton Co. and Tiger Stadium), but the rest of the league was fairly pitcher friendly -- no other teams in Fulton Co. or Fenway.

[gfg001]

still curious, who was hitting in front of those two, what was their obp?

[Larryrickenbacker]

Howdy,

Thanks for some of the explanations. Indeed, one factor I hadn't considered was the over abundance of "bomber" parks in a given division/league. This could help explain such seemingly unrealistic stats.

Larry