BACK TO 1985 - Finals - London Knights win championship!

[albert2b]

[b:1c9ff89d24]MVP[/b:1c9ff89d24]

Gorman Thomas, OF (MAN) - In his swan song, Thomas gave Decade League managers something to remember him by. His record setting 66 HR shattered the previous record of 58 set by Mike Schmidt two seasons ago. And despite striking out nearly 200 times, his incredible RBI total of 149 (second all time only to his own record of 154 back in 1981) more than made up for the lack of contact. The Hakers' Gary Carter (.305, 44, 121) was the main runner up, but no one was really close to matching Thomas' historic season.

[b:1c9ff89d24]CY YOUNG[/b:1c9ff89d24]

Mike Scott, RHP (EXP) - In another runaway, Scott performed at a high level from wire to wire and ended up taking home the pitcher's Triple Crown. However, he didn't just stop at leading the league in Wins, ERA and Ks. He also led the league in IP, SHO, Opp Avg and H/9....not to mention ranking 2nd in CG, TBF and K/9. Simply put, he was dominating. While he did have 15 losses on his record as well, that was more a result of him playing for a sub .500 team than a reflection of the type of season he had. Former Cy Young winner Britt Burns of the BFDs (21-8 ) and Lee Smith of the soon to be defunct Canucks (record tying 51 saves) were the runnerups.

[b:1c9ff89d24]ROOKIE OF THE YEAR[/b:1c9ff89d24]

George Bell, OF (MAN) - This is one midseason award winner who actually managed to hold on and keep the award.....barely. Facing stiff competition from the Murphs' Kevin McReynolds, Bell's numbers (.312, 42, 130) were actually remarkably similar to K-Mac's (.312, 45, 118). But in the end, considering the ballpark each of them played in, Bell's accomplishments was considered to be slightly more impressive. 1985 was a great year for rookies. Some fine years turned in by Hershiser, B. Smith, M. Davis, O. McDowell, Van Slyke and P. Bradley...to name a few.

[Hakmusic]

Congrats BC on a very well played series. The back and forth nature of it was fun to follow. This was the best pitching team I've ever had, and you outpitched me to win it. Though I think running up the score like that in the final game on my home field was a little unnecessary. :wink:

I enjoyed this season very much, going from last to first (regular season anyway), and I am looking forward to next season, and trying to figure out how to recover from the fact that I mortgaged next year to win now.

Way to go BC.

[CHADGUMM]

Congrats BC.

[Sykes25]

I must debate the ROY award. K-Mac has him beat in OPS, RC/27 etc. Mr. Bell hit into a league leading 29 DP's!

Bell suxors, K-Mac 4 the win! :P

Wait till you see the card reveals. Look at the cards for K-Mac and Georgie Porgie and tell me who deserves that award. :wink:

K-Mac:
3rd in SLG
2nd in Runs Created /27 outs
5th in total AVG
16 total bases less than Bell in 81 less AB.
3 more HR than Bell.
Bell sucks. :wink:

[BigAlric]

:D

[Sykes25]

[quote:6c21c6677c]But in the end, considering the ballpark each of them played in, Bell's accomplishments was considered to be slightly more impressive.[/quote:6c21c6677c]

I was not aware that baseball writers looked at the parks players played in as much as they did about their performances on their respective squads. :P

Goooooooooooooooooooo K-Mac!

[albert2b]

[quote:c1edb7d119]I was not aware that baseball writers looked at the parks players played in as much as they did about their performances on their respective squads. [/quote:c1edb7d119]

Then you need to go back and check your recent history, my friend.

[b:c1edb7d119]Larry Walker's 1999 season: .379, 37, 115 (Coors effect)
Chipper Jones' 1999 season: .319, 45, 110

Todd Helton's 2000 season: .372, 42, 147 (Coors effect)
Jeff Kent's 2000 season: .334, 33, 125[/b:c1edb7d119]

Guess who won the MVP in both of those seasons? Hint: It wasn't the guys playing in Coors.

Truth be told, if you put K-Mac in Fenway, his power numbers would be WORSE than they are now. Put Bell in the Murph and his power numbers would be BETTER than they are now. For me, that was the tie breaker.

[Sykes25]

[quote:26e39a1ede="albert2b"][quote:26e39a1ede]I was not aware that baseball writers looked at the parks players played in as much as they did about their performances on their respective squads. [/quote:26e39a1ede]

Then you need to go back and check your recent history, my friend.

[b:26e39a1ede]Larry Walker's 1999 season: .379, 37, 115 (Coors effect)
Chipper Jones' 1999 season: .319, 45, 110

Todd Helton's 2000 season: .372, 42, 147 (Coors effect)
Jeff Kent's 2000 season: .334, 33, 125[/b:26e39a1ede]

Guess who won the MVP in both of those seasons? Hint: It wasn't the guys playing in Coors.

Truth be told, if you put K-Mac in Fenway, his power numbers would be WORSE than they are now. Put Bell in the Murph and his power numbers would be BETTER than they are now. For me, that was the tie breaker.[/quote:26e39a1ede]

Thank you for re-inforcing my point. How did George Bell do in the playoffs? How did Walker and Helton do those years? :wink:

All things being equal, generlaly the player whose team gets into the playoffs will win that award as their MVP or ROY performance puts them over the top.

BTW, those quotes of yours are for MVP and not ROY. ROY would take less into account the ballpark factors.

[Sykes25]

[quote:2e26468cdb]Truth be told, if you put K-Mac in Fenway, his power numbers would be WORSE than they are now. Put Bell in the Murph and his power numbers would be BETTER than they are now. For me, that was the tie breaker. [/quote:2e26468cdb]

P.S. Mrs. Bell might not have broke .300 hitting in the Murph. Dont throw the BP crap at me. The loss of singles at the Murph is greater than the loss of HR at Fenway my friend. :wink:

K-Mac 4 the win!

[Sykes25]

Please remember that thsi banter is all in fun. No offense should be taken. I am enjoying the Billy Martin type debating here.