Keeper league--with variations (well, MAYBE)

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Keeper league--with variations (well, MAYBE)

Postby honestiago1 » Sat Sep 23, 2006 9:43 am

Just finished a team last night, and by next monday may be buried in another league. Anyone interested in starting a franchise league, where we carry core players from year to year? I still remember playing face-to-face, where we'd carry a core group of 5 players from year to year. You get to know the competitors, as well.

I'd like some suggestions, but some things I was thinking were:

-a "staff ace" (SP) (or selection of pitchers valued at 10M total)
-a "franchise player" (or selection of players valued at 10M total)
-a "clubhouse guy" (a sub-1M player that you just like having on your team).
-a "poison pitcher" (selected from a pool of bad pitchers, as determined by the league's owners [meaning someone has to carry Rainey, Crawford, etc.]).
-a "punchless wonder" (the worst OPS players in the game, chosen from a pool determined by the league's managers).

To make it interesting, we could go with lower payrolls. (or start low and work up.

Unique stadiums are a must (only one Kingdome, one Royals, etc.)

SOMER OTHER IDEAS:
*Each year, you get to add a "franchise player" to your team (draft based on reverse order of finish). Up to a maximum of _____?

*Teams can change stadiums if they have a losing record, but maybe can only move ONCE during the run (?).

*Record are maintained by individual managers (meaning you have to save your own stuff).


I'm in no hurry to begin this, and would like some suggestions. I'm just looking for something a little closer to how I used to play.

Suggestions? Participants?
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Postby JIMDAKE » Sat Sep 23, 2006 10:02 am

I'll bite on this. I have a summer CDROM keeper league finishing up in a couple of weeks. With good owners this is a lot of fun.
Looks like a smattering of rules from other theme leagues. A couple of modifications I'd suggest/other random thoughts:
-- More core players you keep (or trade) from year to year (10-12?). Live with a variety of years from these guys. I like the keeper approach when you have multi-card uncertainty.
-- Worst 3 teams can switch stadiums after 2 years, that's about losing your fan base! Otherwise, live up to your contract and milk the luxo boxes!
-- You kept the $$ rules to a minimum & I think that's a must.
-- I do like the franchise player draft and gradually increasing cap limit.
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Core players

Postby honestiago1 » Sat Sep 23, 2006 10:18 pm

*How about 10 core players? Or maybe 40M to spend on up to 10 corps players? (would force a little creativity).

*Anyway, 10 seems a nice, round number. That's less than half the roster. We might want to offer a range, maybe 7-10 players as keeper, meaning some of the people would take more chances via the draft. At the end of the year, they could opt to keep additional players that finished on their roster (call it, "offering a contract"). Perhaps the number could always remain at 10, but you'd be allowed to switch out players. Or maybe you get 8 carryover players every year, but between seasons we hold a two round draft for the last protected slots. Suggestions only. I'd rather it not be too complicated, though/

*I assume we'd have to draft stadiums in reverse order of players (last pick of players gets first pick of stadiums).

*Do we live draft between seasons, allowing poor teams to pick up additional franchise players first (maybe 1 per year?).

*The payroll jump from 60 to 80M, then 100 is steep. Maybe it should be set at 60 or 80M every year, since most of the players are redrafted. If it were 60M, that'd force more of us to have low-price players among our "keepers."

*Should this be a "purist" league? (pitcher bats)
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Postby sphilipp8 » Sun Sep 24, 2006 7:43 am

Count me in. I love the concept of having to prepare for next year. This way you won't drop Brett because you have his bad year. You'd work your way through it and come back strong next year.

Would you be interested in setting this up as another Decade League? This will give you your core group of players to carry year to year. You also have to worry about guys retiring and preparing for next year's rookie draft. I bumped BCManager's Decade League Rules if you're interested.
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Postby jjd77447 » Sun Sep 24, 2006 8:30 am

sounds great count me in. Planning for next year was one of the things i liked the most about the old face to face league i played in. I no you can't do this here, but we used to draft 40 players with 25 acitive with a 15 man minor league. This is were you would pick up prospects for the next year, however we had no free agents after the season started. We did have every card that strat made for the year to pick from but had ab limits for the low ab player with the killer card. But you could keep them for next year. We also could trade draft picks for players.

anyway still new here not sure what all can be done but love the carry over theme.
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Well, then let's make a sign up while we discuss rules

Postby honestiago1 » Sun Sep 24, 2006 8:41 am

The decade league is very interesting, but a lot more work than I'm willing to take on. Let's think of some simple way to do this.

How about we agree on these two things first:

-# of corps players (how about 10 to start, then we draft an additional "keeper" each year?).

-Salary Cap: we should keep this static, I think. The usual 80M?

-Pitcher batting? I run most of my computer games this way and prefer it, but we can go DH.

Other ideas?

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you could have a climbing scale league

Postby roofinghorse1 » Sun Sep 24, 2006 8:51 am

the first 3 seasons @60 million-4 or 5 keepers
the next 3 seasons @80 million-6 or 7 keepers
the next 3 seasons @100 million-8 or 9 keepers
and the last 3 seasons @ 200 million with 10 or 11 keepers(or you could throw out the 200mil if nobody likes this idea)

and each 3 years you could use the total records(from the previous 3 seasons) for 1st rounds of the draft to balance out the pairity..

just an idea but would like to sign up and get in on this great idea........

there,s a lot of ideas coming in so you got a lot to work with honest...
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count me in

Postby roofinghorse1 » Sun Sep 24, 2006 8:53 am

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if you,re loking to vote on a DH or not i would vote for a DH and the salary is not an issue to me....i like any of the lower salarys and haven,t done anything with 200 mil....
just my thoughts...
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Postby sphilipp8 » Sun Sep 24, 2006 11:47 am

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Would the core 10 be selected via a live draft or auto-draft? If auto-draft do you select your 10 after waivers?

DH or No-DH: I'd prefer no DH. I'm in a No-DH league now and it seems more challenging because you need a deep bullpen and have to make trade-offs on offense vs defense. But there will probably be more interest in a DH league. Either way is OK with me.

Don't really have an opinion on the salary cap. I've always played with $80M. Increasing the cap as the seasons progress is intriguing as it makes the "additional keeper" draft more interesting.
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Postby jjd77447 » Sun Sep 24, 2006 1:06 pm

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