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New to the game, and just getting started in a league. I've been browsing the community threads and record pages, and I'm wondering when overusage penalties kick in for pitchers and how to tell if they have.
I see that many starters have pitched 400+ innings, so they're clearly going every 3 days. What would be the rationale for having more than 3 stud asterisk starters? Isn't spending a lot for that 4th and/or 5th a waste of funds?

Thanks for any feedback.

A lot of players draft a four man rotation for the season and then take a cheapie SP for the "5th spot." It helps with economics like you said.

As far as overusage limits, there aren't any at TSN. Though, I wish that it could be an option to be selected on a league by league basis.

I created a theme league once where we were to draft 25 man rosters and maintain them all season and none of the players were allowed to go more than 10% over their carded 5 year average for IP or PA.

It was fun! I'm thinking of starting another one this spring.

Thanks - that helps. Sounds like one of many interesting theme leagues currently running or to come.

I should have used the term rest instead of overuse. I'm still unclear on whether or not a manager could use a 3-man rotation (2-man?), what the downside would be, etc.[b:f1806f8e94][/b:f1806f8e94]

Non *Starters can be cheaper and very effective. Many a championship has been won in this league by judicious (lucky?) use of five-man squads and investing more in stud hitter/fielders.

Starters with an * can only start every 4th game, without start every 5th. No matter what you have to have 5 pitchers who can start, but you can go with a 4 man rotation. If you have 4 *SP. No 2 or 3 man rotations

Thanks, guys. I did see the rules about min. rest days when I set my rotation. I just can't figure out how the top IP for pitchers is over 400 in the "records" link, but so be it.

[quote:f6924f1e1c="lorenzolinh"]Thanks, guys. I did see the rules about min. rest days when I set my rotation. I just can't figure out how the top IP for pitchers is over 400 in the "records" link, but so be it.[/quote:f6924f1e1c]

I just checked the records and the record is 384.33 by Jesse Orosco. Looks like the guy must have maxed out everything he could with Orosco with no limit on his innings pitched. Most for a starter was Clemens at 353.67 which is about 8.67 per game if Clemens started 41 games.

Mike

Personally, I wish the game penalized overuse far more than it does. None of the pitchers in the 80s game had an actual year of 300 IP (unless Blyleven did it, and that card is included). Overused pitchers really should wear down, as they would in real life. This would force managers to pay more attention to SP/RP's, who would need to put in 10-15 starts (perhaps more, depending on the rest of the staff) to grant the hosses a breather. If someone like Clemens turned from an 8* into a 7* at some point during the year, one would have to be more careful about throwing him out there 41 times. The norm for a workhorse pitcher during this era ius really around 36 starts (give or take a few). And 384 IP out of a reliver is just ridiculous. I'm all for statistical variation, but that's just nuts.