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Any way to tell if its an inside the park homerun?

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:05 pm
by ths92110
I picked up Singleton in a league where he had been dumped. He had been injured striking out against a LH, showing either his 79 (2nd best) or 82 (worst) year. He had hit one HR against John Henry Johnson, proving it was his 79 card, based on the fact that his 82 card is W against LH with no HRs. Or so I believed . . . .

With close to 200 AB his stats are basically aweful and skewed heavily in favor of RHs. It seems almost impossible at this point that it's his 79 card. So my question is, is it possible for Singleton's 82 card to have hit a HR against a LH in the 80s game? If so how? Some kind of fielder X super-advanced freak play? Are those in the 80's game? Is there any way to tell if this is in fact what occured?? An inside the park homerun somehow????

Thanks for any input = )

ths

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:41 pm
by entropy8686
it's prolly just his 79 card and you're getting shafted on rolls... sorry that's crappy input lol.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:14 am
by 1st Command Commando
Every now and again, if you read the write-up for the game, it will say something like "Henderson sent the hometown fans home happy when he raced around the bases for an inside the park homerun in the deciding ninth frame."
I have actually gotten that write-up before, and I think its the only way to know for sure if it was an inside the parker unless the opposing pitcher and the batter do not have any natural HR or ballpark diamonds on their cards.
sog

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:51 pm
by voovits
Just to clarify though, it is possible to stretch a triple into an inside the park homerun with the additional baserunning options feature. You don't always have that option and I don't know what activates it, nor the exact out/safe formula (it includes outfield arm and players running speed) but it certainly can happen, and as an avid CDROM player, I could say that it's not quite as rare as you may think.
And it shows up in the boxscore as a regular HR. I don't ever recall seeing mention of it in the game story, but admittedly I don't read them a whole lot.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:17 pm
by ths92110
I thought to stretch a 3b into a HR you had to have a "TRIPLE(lf/cf/rf)" result on one of the cards. Neither Singleton or any of Johnson's years have such a result, though Johnson does has a straight "TRIPLE" on his 83 card.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:25 pm
by voovits
It can come off the pitchers card, and I'm pretty sure it could happen on a die roll as well.
In other words, tr 1-6, do 7-20 could net an inside the park homer as well.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:35 pm
by ths92110
Crud -- this appears to be turning into an expensive lesson, as an inside the park HR would explain his numbers . . . .

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:30 am
by 1st Command Commando
Usually, though, only batters whose speed is 1-15 or better are going to try for an inside the parker. Singleton is a 1-10. To stretch a base involves a modifier, usually -2 but I could be mistaken. Also, the arm of the outfielder is taken into account. Let's say it's Dale Murphy who is manning the outfield slot where Singleton hit the ball. That's another -3. So, for Singleton to stretch a triple into a HR in this case, he must make it on a die roll of 1-5. That's only a 25% success ratio. Even if you have the baserunner taking extra bases at the most aggressive setting, HAL will only send Singleton if you have at least a 60% chance of getting there. Now, if there is a rubber arm out there with a +3 rating, and I am wrong about the -2 modifier to stretch a base, then you would have a success ratio of 1-13, or 65%. If your baserunning is set to aggressive or extra aggressive, then Singleton would have the green light to go. That's why its usually guys like Coleman, Raines, and Henderson who get the majority of inside the parkers.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:06 am
by ths92110
The opposing CF was Lenny Dystra: Cf-2(0). The team at bat had a 10-8 lead with 2 outs and a man on 3rd in the top of the 9th. The pitcher was J.H. Johnson in relief, whom I now believe was in his 83 year, with a TRIPLE on at 6-5 roll vs RH batters. The guy on deck was George Brett, who appears to be in his 79 year (4R and -clutch). I don't know what the baserunning was set at.

[quote:0a534e7694]HAL will only send Singleton if you have at least a 60% chance of getting there.[/quote:0a534e7694]

How do you know this?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:15 am
by Panzer ace
I just had a runner with 1-12 speed thrown out trying for home. First two batters were out, the third hit a triple. Result was batter out, inning over. The CF was Dawson(-4). Hal does stupid stuff like this MUCH more than we realize.