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I'm trying to determine a mystery card. A batter hit a triple. He has no triples on his card. The pitcher only has 2 years where he gives up a triple. The outfield defense were all 1s or 2s. Am I correct in assuming that the triple must have come off of the pitcher's card? In the old board game it was possible to get a triple off of a 4 outfielder. This hasn't changed has it???

You are correct

I am not 100% sure about this, maybe someone can correct me on this. I thought there were times a player would 'stretch' a double (or try) into a triple if you were 'aggressive' in baserunning. Could that also account for a triple that you wouldnt see on the cards or defense?

a double into triple (and single into double, etc.). FYI, I drafted a team using career historical, which gives Gwynn and Boggs a run rating of 9. I'm finding station to station baseball is a pain in the butt, man. You miss out on some run scoring opportunities (Raines career historical running is a 12, though he steals bases like a demon, and his fielding is a 3 in CF and a 4 in lf [????]).

The guy who hit the triple was Gary Roenicke who has a 1-13 running rating. Is there a way to find out what the chances are he would take an extra base?

I thought I found Goose Gossage on waivers with his 80 or 82 card. But after 3 games with me he's 0-2 with an 11.11 ERA. I'll give him some more time but it sure looks like Roenicke actually stretched a double into his triple.

Thanks for the help.

Panzer Ace is right. I recall many, many months ago asking if this feature was on in this version of Strat, and was told all super advanced rules from the board game were turned on except for weather effects. I might be going out on a limb here, but I think all the homeruns in this game are the kind hit over the fence if your result is a homerun or N-HR result. However, if you read some of the smmaries, you will spot the very rare inside the park homerun. I believe the inside the parker is a result of a triple that is stretched into a homerun. Also, as further proof, I have had a bases empty triple end the inning, because the batter tried to stretch the triple into a homerun. The same has ocurred for me on a bases empty double where the inning ended because the batter was thrown out at 3B. There was no play at the plate or cutoff throw as the bases were empty at the time except for the batter running the bases, and he was declared out at the base.

HAL factors in outfielder's throwing arm, and speed of the base runner, and this can be modified by game situation - how many outs and is the runner being held being the main ones. My understanding, and this is not backed up by proof, is if you select normal baserunning, then HAL gives the green light if there is a 65% chance. If you are aggressive, then 60% chance. If extra aggressive, then 55% chance. If conservative, then 70% chance. If extra conservative, then 75% chance. 1-11 = 55%. 1-12 =60%. 1-13 = 65%. Ect. So, baserunning set at aggressive, outfielder's arm +1, baserunner speed = 1-13 gives result of 1-14 or 70% chance. HAL is sending him. Another situation: Man on second, two outs, single to center field, baserunner not being held. Centerfielder is Van Slyke, -3 arm. Baserunning set to conservative. (My understanding is the runner is off with the crack of the bat, so he gains +2 for speed modifier with 2 outs). Baserunner is Tim Raines, 1-17 speed. (one final aside, if a 20 is rolled for the play at the base, the runner is automatically out. There is no 100% or better chance to advance, 95% is as good as it gets). 17+2-3=16, 80% chance of success, HAL is sending Raines. Same situation, Hassey trying to score, I think he is 1-9, 9+2-3=8, HAL puts up the stop sign at 3B. What I do not know is if HAL will take more of a chance in a critical game situation, where Hassey in the above example might represent the tying or go-ahead run in the ninth inning....

Again, I am not 100% positive about this. Just comes from reading StratFan all those years, playing the board game 10 years, owning some of the CD ROM versions, and also reading the little monthly newsletter that used to get published from Wisconsin or something. Lots of great reading and nuggets of info in those publications.
Enuf on my .02 worth. Hope this helps or at least stimulates the thinking. Would love to hear if anyone agrees or disagrees with me.
sog

I can understand basing whether a guy takes an extra base on his success rate when the guy is already on base (going 1st to 3rd or scoring from 2nd on a single, etc.). But for stretching a single into a double or double into triple - there must be some other factor. Otherwise Raines, Henderson or Dilone would hit a ton of doubles and only occasionally have a single.

Only a small percentage of the hits can be 'stretched'. I believe the ballpark also comes into play.