1969 single team theme league - drafting

[franky35]

If anyone wants to trade up for the Cubs 4th round pick (10th in round 4), please pm me. Easy terms.

[Risden]

[quote:67f13e5e16="franky35"]No, it only counts against pwootten's cap (for Millan).

Roster players don't count, but all drafted players count against the team that they end up with (not necessarily the team that drafted them). We have beaten that horse to death.[/quote:67f13e5e16]

OK - I gave up trying to understand.

So Popovich gets traded for McCovey and then Popvich gets traded back. Popovich isn't [i:67f13e5e16]really [/i:67f13e5e16]a rostered player of the Cubbies anymore.

McCovey is the biggest bargain since Manhattan was sold to the Dutch.

[ggrover15]

Round 1
1. pwootten - 61.08 - McCovey (traded to Franky)
2. PM770 - 58.77 - Hank Aaron (48.66 left)
3. Risden - 41.00 - Bobby Bonds (32.80 remaining)
4. pwootten - Cleon Jones - remaining cap - 51.40

Round 2
1. Risden - Jimmy Wynn - remaining cap - 22.67
2. PM770 - 48.66 - Rico Carty (44.13 left)
3. franky35 - Agee (20.96 left)
4. Risden - Joe Morgan (18.54 left)
5. rjnewman - 39.28 - Frank Fernandez (32.67 left)
6. LMbombers - 39.16 - Rusty Staub (33.69 left)
7. caimrisek - 34.04 - Luis Aparicio (29.51 left)
8. evanthomas - 33.86 - Seaver (26.09 left)

Round 3
1. pwootten - Menke (47.32)
2. PM770 - 44.13 - Ken Tatum (38.23 left)
3. franky35 - Jim Hicks (19.89 left)
4. pwootten (via trade with Risden) - Ed Kirkpatrick (43.56 left)
5. rjnewman - Dick Allen 24.83 left
6. LMbombers - Mel Stottlemyre 26.96 left
7. caimrisek - 29.51 - Larry Dierker (18.59 left)
8. evanthomas - Claude Osteen
9. Rick Smith - 32.48 - Jim Fregosi
10. pwootten (via trade with franky via trade with ggrover) Felix Millan (40.00 left)
11. gfdwarf - 18.48 - Jerry Koosman (7.82 left)
12. Gordie Howe - 5.84 - Woody Held (3.93 left)

Round 4
1. pwootten - 40.00 - Clete Boyer (37.68 left)
2. PM770 - 38.23 - Juan Marichal (26.65 left)
3. ggrover (via franky35) - Andy Messersmith (13.32 left)
4. Risden - 18.54
5. rjnewman - 24.83
6. LMbombers - 26.96
7. caimrisek - 18.59
8. evanthomas - 17.73
9. Rick Smith - 27.18
10. franky35 (via ggrover) - 19.89
11. gfdwarf - 7.82
12. Gordie Howe - 3.93

[pwootten]

[quote:ac0be8e82b="Risden"]McCovey is the biggest bargain since Manhattan was sold to the Dutch.[/quote:ac0be8e82b]

I respectfully disagree. I have essentially swapped McCovey for a draft pick that became Cleon Jones and Felix Millan. I have filled two positions for that trade. I'm happy. Don't be critical.

1969 is a tough room to work. I remember it being the year of love and peace.

[Risden]

I am offering Joe Morgan to any team that wants him - in exchange, I need a decent $4-5 Mill pitcher and/or a good $2-3 Mill catcher.

I'll wait for any potential offers before making my next pick.

[pkwmati]

[quote:a30fcab1b2="pwootten"]1969 is a tough room to work. I remember it being the year of love and peace.[/quote:a30fcab1b2]

Yeah, yeah Age of Aquarius, my @#$! :wink:

[pwootten]

[quote:42cb82c529="PM770"][quote:42cb82c529="pwootten"]1969 is a tough room to work. I remember it being the year of love and peace.[/quote:42cb82c529]

Yeah, yeah Age of Aquarius, my @#$! :wink:[/quote:42cb82c529]

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[franky35]

[quote:f2b97f73e9]Little Joe won't cost any cap room if you get him in a trade.

[/quote:f2b97f73e9]

This is wrong. Morgan is a drafted player, not a rostered player. Drafted players count against the cap of whatever team they end up with.

As you may recall, I traded my first round pick (#3 overall) plus Popovich for McCovey (the first player drafted). There was a lot of discussion about whether McCovey counts against pwootten's cap or my cap. After some discussion, the commissioner (me) ruled that McCovey counts against my cap. If I trade McCovey, we would count against the cap of the team I traded him to. The same applies to Morgan.

Within these rules, you can work trades with whoever you want. I like making trades - I think it is fun. Other owners don't like to trade so much.

When I traded away Popovich there was a big uproar that Popovich stinks and that pwootten was being taken advantage of. Now, I trade a pick that became Millan straight up for Popovich. Now Popovich is the greatest player since Nap Lajoie and, again, I am ripping off someone.

It just isn't true. The same rules apply to everyone - that is the definition of fairness.

[franky35]

[quote:07d4119b60]McCovey is the biggest bargain since Manhattan was sold to the Dutch.[/quote:07d4119b60]

The marketplace says this isn't true. I have tried to trade McCovey to a couple owners. No bites. He is still available in the right trade, but he counts 13.35 mil against the cap and that has scared away interest in him.

Number of trade offers I have received for McCovey = zero.

[Rjnewman]

before your rule change. Popovich was just bad relative to original trade. Millan part is legit.