Re: 1986 Free Teams

Our historical single season sets

Postby Free Radicals » Sat May 17, 2008 12:42 am

Side note: My 1st ring at anything in 2 years . :wink: :wink: :D :D :D :wink: :wink:

http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/stratomatic/team/team_other.html?user_id=69603

7-0 in the playoffs too !

No credits but I knew that in the beginning !
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Postby dennisfs561 » Sun May 18, 2008 2:00 am

Nice 8-)

No credits, but I had a good 86 run. Here are my 86 rings. Gotta show em off somewhere :)
http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/stratomatic/team/team_other.html?user_id=63592
http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/stratomatic/team/team_other.html?user_id=63075

Sould have named all my teams Knuckleheads4.

And, it's nice when your're the wildcard and win:
http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/stratomatic/team/team_other.html?user_id=64928
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Postby Free Radicals » Sun May 18, 2008 10:12 am

Now on a more sour note :

My 6th '86 team made the playoffs from this account (Free Radicals) ,winning it's division with an 87-75 record . I don't get those 12 games over added to my 86 winning % OR get the points for making the playoffs . Now this is the part I don't care for in TSN's midstream changing of the rules .

Their punishing everyone because Grindi made 50+ teams ,which at the time was no limit on teams . Heck , Like I said I made up 20 teams myself but they took 14 from me . I just want the stats to count ...ALL OF THEM IS ALL !!!! :( :evil: :x
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Postby RICHARDMILTER » Sun May 18, 2008 10:26 am

I agree with you 100%. I just had another free 1986 team end its season Friday. I won 95 games, and I would just like to receive Managerial credit for taking a team to the playoffs,especially since I have rarely done that! I would never ever expect a free credit, for a free team! I just want the managerial credit! Oh well,nothing is perfect! But let us hope they see the light and make the games count! That is my two cents!
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Postby RICHARDMILTER » Sun May 18, 2008 1:06 pm

Grindi3,
I do not blame you for their(TSN) mistake. If you have spent 5 grand on this site, you have every right to complain! So some may blame you, but not me! Offering free teams every once in a while is just good business. And when they(TSN) do not set the rules in advance, what can they expect? Also offering us baseball, and SOM fanatics, unlimited free teams is like offering free crack to crack heads. Yes I am upset that I do not get any managerial credit for my playoff teams,however I do not blame you. And I am not that upset with TSN. It is just that my ego would like to get credit for putting together good teams(finally). I will continue to be a paying customer as long as this site exists! The bottom line is; this game is fun, and overall they(TSN) do a petty damn good job. But as paying customers(especially ones who have spent 5 grand) we have the right to air our minor complaints.
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Postby rosenthm » Tue May 20, 2008 7:03 am

Just realized that the results of all my 86 teams are not represented on my ratings page. I've read the posts and some excellent points were made. Here's my 2 cents (but the first five ideas are free):

1. I played in more than 5 free leagues and it was a great way to learn the cards of players I wouldn't have ordinarily used. From my perspective it was great and from TSN's perspective I guess it brought some new players to the game. So far win/win.
2. I'm not one to get into the "notches on my belt" mentality for how many playoffs and rings I've acquired, but I was really disapponted today when I looked at my manager rating page and realized that my first ring in a long time...did not count and only 2 playoffs were recorded instead of the five I deserved. We were told that we would get no credits but the results would count. TSN (Bernie) was angry that some abused the free offer, changed the policy about ratings, picked an arbitrary number(5), did Bernie roll a die? and now 3 of my 5 playoffs and 1 "champs" never happened! win/win becomes lose/lose.
3. 99% of my play is theme leagues and I guess it was just my luck that the better teams I had in the 86 leagues just happened to be after the magic #5 number. If five is the magic number for "counting" than the best five should count, not the first five. That would be even for everyone, why the first five? That's ridiculous!
4. Personally, I would not pay for another 86 team just to get more of my leagues to "count." That's like buying your manager rating. As a matter of fact, I'll pay for fewer teams in ATG3 because TSN (Bernie) has once again proven they have absolutely no respect for those of us that have played this game for a long time. If I weren't comitted to a couple of long time theme leagues, I would not spend another cent at SOM TSN, but unlike TSN (Bernie) I will honor my comiitments to my current leagues until they end. Then no more.
5. I'm NOT complaining about the opportunity to play the 86 game for free. Thanks for that chance....but I can't believe you changed the rules after the fact and that my 86 ring doesn't count. Your credibility, Bernie, has dropped considerably and I know I'm not the only one that will take all of what you say in the future with a grain of salt.
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Postby EDWINCOX » Thu May 22, 2008 10:51 pm

I had 13 free teams, 11 of them are done. I made the playoffs 4 times and won 1 championship, but you wouldn't think I'm a very good strat player if you looked at my rating since only 1 of the playoffs count!

That's not a good way for TSN to make the newbies want to stick around and play more, how do we know that in a few months they might not deicde to wipe out all of the $12.50 leagues from our ratings? I'm in the finals of an 03' league right now and have a shot to make the playoffs in an 04' league that ends in a day, why should I believe that they won't be wiped out in a few months?

It's fun to play and it feels good when you win the championship but lets all be honest, no one gets a ring to wear out here, the closest thing is your managers rating, and while I think the actual number of those things are pretty much BS I do think that seeing how many times a player has made the playoffs and how many championships he has won means something, and those of us who put time and effort into the leagues should be able to see that somewhere, and when they randomly took that away for no good reason it put's doubt in most of our minds about wether this is a site and a game that I want to invest time and money into.

I love Strat, I still play the board game with a friend of mine, but I hate how TSN had no plan when they started the free game and it has left a really bad taste in my mouth about the site.
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Postby Palanion » Fri May 23, 2008 12:44 pm

How many more people can we get to ask for the games to "count"?

I played ten 1986 teams. Of the first five, two made the playoffs and my win/ pct. was exactly .500.
Include my other five teams, and I had four trips to the playoffs, though no ring (despite two league-best records). And my record and win. pct. was 815-805, .503. Not a big increase overall, but enough that I'd rather say I had a winning record than a .500 record.

I understand that Bernie doesn't want to "reward" the people who had 50 teams with the ratings points for just having the teams, but wasn't that kind of the offer?

"Here's a new game. Play for free. Results go to your ratings."

Forget that Bernie, somehow, did not expect people to stockpile and overload teams. Who is getting penalized for the error? Not the one making the mistake. Nor the ones who got "too many" teams.
The answer: every single player who had more than five teams, which was MANY!!!

I will continue to be the same customer I have always been because I love the game too much. However, the stuff outside the game is getting OLD.
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Seven....

Postby 13Baseballs » Mon May 26, 2008 9:33 pm

That's how many Champs that I have, that don't count.... just don't seem right.... :roll:
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Postby Free Radicals » Mon May 26, 2008 11:59 pm

The Good : My 6th '86 team won game 5 of the semi's and then won game 7 of the finals . CHAMPS ! WOO HOO !!!!


The Bad : None of it counted ! :evil:

The Ugly : The system used from TSN on this whole situation ! ( Middle finger extended) :wink:
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