1969 LIVE DRAFT 80 MIL DH - LEAGUE CHAT

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Postby johnlaw1564 » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:45 pm

[quote:5d9e6a94a1="ggrover15"]first round is in the books..... And not on pitcher was taken.... wow...[/quote:5d9e6a94a1]

26 picks and no pitchers yet! Who is going to break the ice? This is looking like a veteran group of 1969ers!
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Postby kenhutchings » Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:16 am

[quote:7ee77a2350="John Law"][quote:7ee77a2350="ggrover15"]first round is in the books..... And not on pitcher was taken.... wow...[/quote:7ee77a2350]

26 picks and no pitchers yet! Who is going to break the ice? This is looking like a veteran group of 1969ers![/quote:7ee77a2350]

#30 pick was "Sudden Sam" McDowell, and my pick, #31, was "Tom Terrific" Seaver.

We want a pitcher, not a belly itcher.

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Postby toshiro » Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:34 pm

Reasons why I hate live drafts -- Risden gets Woodie Held and I don't. I'm starting to realize why Tony Perez is so popular. Compared to his peers at 3rd, his D isn't quite so atrocious (Held is a 4e23 after all), but his stick is wicked, esp for the price.
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Re: 1969 LIVE DRAFT 80 MIL DH - NOW DRAFTING!

Postby kenhutchings » Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:35 pm

[quote:2914b41e7a="John Law"]1969 LIVE DRAFT 80 MIL DH LEAGUE

-$80 MIL salary cap
-Designated Hitter
-Live 16 round serpentine draft on draft site www.somdraft.com
-Draft order determined by state lotto pick 3; high to low
-Must pick unique stadium in any round
-Divisions 1/4/7/10 - 2/5/8/11 - 3/6/9/12 per draft order
-Waivers
-Must carry 25 man roster (no more, no less)

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Is the last rule going to be modified to allow for 24 man rosters?

Are we aiming to complete the draft by a certain time? I do have to admit that the pace has picked up a little bit in the past few days. However, some of the managers wanted to wait until the 11th before the league got going, and the 11th is this coming Friday, and the pace of the draft will need to pick up if that is to occur (and wouldn't we need to be finished by Thursday in order to start a week from tomorrow?).

After we have finished the 16 player draft, I would imagine, but wanted to confirm, that the drafted players are listed first on each team's roster, and then the other nine players are selected for the 17 thru 25 slots. I just want to make sure that everyone is consistent.

8-)
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Postby johnlaw1564 » Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:46 pm

24 or 25 man rosters allowed. We are not in a rush to finish by any date. The draft was originally not even going to start until the 14th or something.

After we finish live draft, we must load in order by division! Put your 15 drafted players at the BOTTOM of your draft list.
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Postby toshiro » Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:48 pm

fyi, I'll be on the road thu-sun. I should have access at some points and I'll certainly put proxies, but just wanted you all to know.
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Postby kenhutchings » Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:00 am

[quote:6daf6ef146="John Law"]24 or 25 man rosters allowed. We are not in a rush to finish by any date. The draft was originally not even going to start until the 14th or something.

After we finish live draft, we must load in order by division! Put your 15 drafted players at the BOTTOM of your draft list.[/quote:6daf6ef146]

It would seem more sensible for me that the 15 drafted players should be at the TOP of the draft list. (15?, I thought it was 16). Let me indicate my concerns by illustrating an example: Say someone drafts Clete Boyer ($2.32 M) for their third baseman, and that George Scott ($2.33 M) is left undrafted. If two teams compete for George Scott in the autodraft, and they have him listed anywhere from 1-10, then one of the teams will get George Scott, and the other team will get Clete Boyer, who is the next highest value 3B, because that team will show him having a higher priority number than the team that drafted him, if drafted players are ranked 11-25.

If we have the drafted players at the TOP of the draft list, then everyone is assured that they'll get their drafted players after the autodraft, and the competition will only be for those players ranked 16-25. If we have the drafted players at the BOTTOM of the draft list, then scenarios such as the example I presented are likely to occur, and then we'll have to shuffle everyone around during the waiver period and before the season starts in order for the drafted players to get on their respective teams.

I participated previously in a 70s league where we had the option of protecting a player from our team for the following league. I wanted to carry over George Brett on my team, who is #2 in ranking for 3B in the 70s game, Mike Schmidt being the highest. We were directed to have our protected players at the bottom of our roster, and I happened to raise the same concern, but was overridden. Well, in a case of SITYS (See, I told you so), two other teams wanted Mike Schmidt, and since Schmidt could only go to one team, the other team ended up with George Brett, who was on my team but was listed as number 25 on my draft list. I wasn't the only one victimized, and I did eventually get Brett on my team, but only after some hassle.

Thus, I would respectfully request that you reconsider your earlier instructions.

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Postby Risden » Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:24 am

We can discuss and debate how to list our players but this is probably the 15th league that I have been in with this format (drafted/protected players known BEFORE the autodraft - ATG, ATG II, ATG III, 1969) and we always have put the known drafted players at the BOTTOM.

As long as each owner includes his list of players AND the owners in the draft do NOT put any "drafted" players on their roster, the original owner will get said player. 100% Guaranteed - I was involved in the beta testing on that autodraft feature set-up.

In the case(s) where an owner accidentally puts a player on his autodraft "wish list" that was actually drafted by someone else, that trade/release can occur before the season starts. It does happen occassionally, but not very often. We all know (thanks to the SOM-DRAFT tool) which owner drafted which players.

Also - each owner picks a unique stadium with one of his 16 picks. After the draft: each team has 15 player, 1 stadium and (hopefully) enough cash on hand to auto-draft 10 more scrubs. Note: each owner can pick his stadium at any time in the 16-round draft, not just the 16th round.
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Postby JOHNEIGENAUER » Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:04 am

Players successfully drafted in the first 15 rounds go last. Like Bob said, this is standard protocol, everyone ASSUMES that drafted players will go last, and it WORKS. Let´s not mess with what works.
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Postby pkwmati » Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:23 am

Are you certain you had Brett on your draft list?

The rules say the that when you miss on a player, "you get the next highest priced player [b:efd93619de]that wasn't taken by any other team"[/b:efd93619de] (emphasis mine).

I would hate to think that all this time I've been employing an auto-draft strategy that was based on mis-information.
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