69' franchise theme league...60 mil and more...

[LMBombers]

[quote:c6f654bfd1="franky35"]And what about the Cards? Can they even field a team?[/quote:c6f654bfd1]

If I had the Cards I would NOT use Ricketts (.52 catcher), Torrez (1.93) and Taylor (6.29). Losing Ricketts gets you down to 15 hitters and you still have 2 catcher elligible players (Torre & McCarver). You would have to replace Torrez & Taylor with two sub 1M players. If you average .90 for each of them your total team salary would be 59.52 which makes you complliant.

Any team with a team salary over 60M will have to do something similar to the above.

[toshiro]

I guess I'm cool with the under 1 mil adds. Can I add 11 mil in players to bring me into compliance? Kidding.

Is there a limit to the number of this kind of substitution that can be made or no limit?

[franky35]

[quote:e97f7f2c40]If I had the Cards I would NOT use Ricketts (.52 catcher), Torrez (1.93) and Taylor (6.29). Losing Ricketts gets you down to 15 hitters and you still have 2 catcher elligible players (Torre & McCarver). You would have to replace Torrez & Taylor with two sub 1M players. If you average .90 for each of them your total team salary would be 59.52 which makes you complliant. [/quote:e97f7f2c40]


The Cards can't cut any pitchers. The minimum is 9. I had previously asked about Balt and Minn being undraftable and Pelzer said that is just the way the rules are. So if Bal and Minn can't be drafted, then niether can the Cards. I think we need a ruling from Pelzer or a vote on whether the Cards get special treatment. If the Cards can do this, can we reconsider whether to draft Bal or Min?

[franky35]

Toshiro,

I had understood that the number of optional substitutions is zero. So, the only team that could add free agents is the Cubs. Is that right?

Obviously, I am freaking out and need to take some meds. But if we can freely substitute high $ players for 0.5 - 0.99 mil free agents, then I would like to have the option to switch to Balt or Minn.

[pacoboy]

Wait a second, we can't be changing rules or "qualifiying" them AFTER we all picked our teams (without a drat I might add).

I have Detroit who's 7.5 mil over the cap and has EXACTLY 10 pitchers and 15 hitters. I will get them under the 60 mil using only 0.50 players who will NOT start...that I promise - REGARDLESS of the vote I will NOT pick players above 0.50....probably need to cut 3 players - max 4.

Now can I drop my 8.69 mil Lolich for a 0.50 and be done with it ? Yes, but I didn't pick this team under those assumptions.

Fact is that the last "filler" owners were stuck with the HARDEST teams to make....who generally have only 1 or 2 stars to use.

Let's not stack the deck before the season starts.


I agree w/ Toshiro and vote for ONLY 0.50 players as that was the spirit of this league....but having 3 or 4 bums on the bench/bullpen IMHO does not deter from that....especially if you really take a look at those 0.50 players.

[pacoboy]

Why can't the CARDS qualify ?

Drop Chuck Taylor for a 0.50, add a 10th pitchers for 0.50, and drop any 2 hitters post AUTODRAFT.

Simple.

This adheres to the "SPIRIT" of the league. 3 bums who will not play...where is the harm ?

How is that less fair than the fact we did not hold a draft for the teams ?

[franky35]

pacoboy, I think the rules are that you must cut Mcclain or Lolich

Here is my earlier post and Pelzer's response:

[quote:e713b623d4]A few observations: Balt and Min can't be drafted because it is impossible for these teams to get under the cap. Atl must cut Aaron (only way to get under); Det must cut either Lolich or McClain; Pit must cut Stargell and Clemente (ouch); we need a rule for teams that can't comply with HAL's requirements - the Cubs need a catcher, ANgels need a starter. Also, can we confirm that we must take our team's stadium.



That is kindof the point of the league and the reason it is 60 mil cap. To make the teams even. Why let Balt. have 80 or 90 mil and a lower tier team can only get 50 mil with all their players? If you want to take a stud franchise you'll have to make some tough choices. Because of the minimum requirement we can set the league up as a 200 mil league but it will really be a 60 mil cap. This way their are no minimum salary requirements. As far as some of the shortages of players for certain teams I am in favor of letting the manager pick up a needed player from any undrafted team not to exceed a 1 mil salary for each individual player needed. ie; the Angels would be allowed to draft a pitcher with a salary up to 1 mil. and the cubs could pick a catcher likewise. Once the league starts you are stuck with that player for the duration and he may not be dumped for a different player. Is this agreeable to everyone? Feel free to voice your idea.[/quote:e713b623d4]

[franky35]

If there is a consensus that the last few teams need help so they get rules exemptions, I'll go along with it. But where do you draw the line? What are the rules?

Detroit can comply with the rules by cutting Lolich or McClain. So then Detroit would have only Detroit players. Must they have only Detroit players? If Detroit can pick up optional free agents (below 1 mil), can I do the same thing? There are some low $ free agents that I would prefer to my current A's; for example, I would like to replace one or more of my catchers with a free agent. Can I do that?

Will there be a free agent frenzy?

The Cards don't qualify for the same reason the Twins don't qualify. If I can pick the Twins and replace a few high $ players for some 0.99 mil free agents I think I could make a pretty good team. Same thing for Atlanta if they get to keep Aaron and bring in some different relievers.

But as I said, if we want to make special rules for the last few teams I'm ok with it, but I need to know what the rules are.

[pacoboy]

If that's the case then hold a draft for the teams.


"Hey, it's my league and I pick first" What **** is that ?

The first team picked - WASHINGTON - MADE TEAM !

The second team picked - YANKEES - Basicly a MADE TEAM....they have extra players to get under w/o cutting anyone

The third team is the METS.....again. They are 15 mil over the cap...who's to dictate who they cut ? They have 10 pitchers and 17 hitters so they must keep all 10 pitchers ? Why ? ....and cut who then ? which 3 hitters do they have to cut ? Jones ? Agee ? or BOTH to keep the drops to a MINIMUM ? (all they need is to cut the 2 with them)


How does it hurt the spirit of the league if I drop 1 guy to pick up a 0.50 bum or 3 ? None of these guys are any good and will not effect the team.

HOWEVER, forcing someone to drop specific players is ridiculus and honestly unfair given the nature of this team selection process.

[pacoboy]

For the record, I speak my peace so no one take any offense.

In the end I will abide by the commish rulings.