24 TKL Summer Cuts & Draft

[kaviksdad]

[quote:379d4371aa="tcochran"]If Ray or Page2 or another manager wishes to prepare a draftables list before each draft, that's okay, I guess -- as long as it is viewed as UNOFFICIAL.

I could see where a manager might be annoyed by relying on such a list, making a bad pick, and then not finding out until 10 picks later that a re-pick was needed. If the list were official, then it would be reasonable to ask to have a re-wind of the draft clock -- and that's chaos that we do not need, as far as I can see.

The bigger issue is probably just one of having managers pay attention. No list is going to force a manager to stay engaged in the process. On the other hand, if a manager is actively involved, then such a list is not necessary.

For example, I run a 12-team retro keeper league. So far, we have drafted for the 2001 and 2002 seasons -- for which TSN/SOM publishes NO list of players, whether draftable or not. Our managers have had very few bad picks, just because they have paid attention along the way.

The same level of attention would probably be best for this league, too, right?[/quote:379d4371aa]

As a fellow league commish I got to side with T on this. While it's nice to have a list of available players there are downsides to it. The biggest downside is that it reduces the need for each manager to do his/her research. A keeper league of this type is meant for us guys who really like to get our hands dirty in the stats. While I'll have no problem with the casual owner who is mainly here for the fun, there is a certain level of personal responsibility that should be expected when you play multi-years with the same guys.

Then there's also the "screwup" issue. I've seen more blowups over an ineligible pick that was mistakenly shown as "available" than I have in leagues when no list is offered. Instead of a mistake being solely on the manager that makes it, in these cases the "blame" gets directed at the person who made the list - and that's not right. But it happens, and I've seen it.

Nobody's asking anyone to become stat junkies or anything like that. But I would imagine that if you're dropping $25 bucks on something you would want to take a hand in it rather than just put it on cruise control.

[JMP1]

I spent some time working on a supplemental pick last week for the team I picked up from Pennyville. Picking up a team at this stage and trying to figure out who was available was a bit more than I bargained for.

It appears there was one pick available for the team I inherited. If it is not too late I would like to select Brian Matuz.

Please advise if this is OK.

Also, I am not sure where we are with the league and this set of cards.

How many more seasons, if any, with the 2009 set?

When is the next prospect draft?

Thanks!

[tcochran]

[quote:528800e6ff="JMP 1"]I spent some time working on a supplemental pick last week for the team I picked up from Pennyville. Picking up a team at this stage and trying to figure out who was available was a bit more than I bargained for.

It appears there was one pick available for the team I inherited. If it is not too late I would like to select Brian Matuz.

Please advise if this is OK.

Also, I am not sure where we are with the league and this set of cards.

How many more seasons, if any, with the 2009 set?

When is the next prospect draft?

Thanks![/quote:528800e6ff]

Hi Jay, Matusz is on cshannajr's roster -- your Excel search probably did not locate him, because you had a different spelling.

As to your other questions, this is the 2nd season with the 2009 cards, and the next prospect draft will be after the free agent draft in the spring.

[JMP1]

Let's try Josh Reddick, OF BOS

[tcochran]

[quote:0b5269ee85="JMP 1"]Let's try Josh Reddick, OF BOS[/quote:0b5269ee85]

Jay, that's a winner! Thanks.

[b:0b5269ee85]To Jagman:[/b:0b5269ee85] We still need your replacement pick (instead of the Tillman one).

[tcochran]

FIRST ROUND
litangel - RA Dickey, SP Mets
kaviksdad - Matt Belisle RP Colo
tcochran - Wilson Betemit, 3B KC
superfly - Josh Bard C SEA (via proxy)
KNIGHT - OCTAVIO DOTEL RP CHW
Mr BBW - Brooks Conrad-Atlanta Braves 3b/2b
Rant - Chris Young SP SD
Tom Pierce - Luke French, SP
Page2 - Mitre, Sergio SP/RP NYY
terry - David Robertson, RP, NYY
Mike Lopp - Gregor Blanco - cf-KC
sjkorte - Santiago Casilla RP OAK-SF
Cubit - Shawn Kelley P
pennyville/JMP1 - B. Lillibridge
jagman - D. McCutchen P PIT
john law - David Hernandez P - BAL
The Turtle - Jeff Manship
Albert2b - Bill Hall, UTIL
cshanajr - Reggie Willits OF LAA
thisisray - Bobby Parnell RP NYM
7smitty7 - Jesse Crain RP MIN
qksilver - Kyle Farnsworth RP KC

2ND ROUND
litangel - Laynce Nix OF Cin
superfly - DeWayne Wise OF (proxy)
KNIGHT - Emilio Bonifacio UT FLA
Mr BBW - Tyler Greene SLC SS
Rant - Aaron Cunningham - RF SD
Tom Pierce - Daniel Herrera, RP
Page2 - Jeff Karstens PIT SP (by proxy)
tcochran - Luis Rodriguez SD SS
kaviksdad - Jason Berken RP Balt
terry - Jose Veras, RP
Mike Lopp - Joel Hanrahan-RP-PIT
Cubit - Clete Thomas OF Det returns to my club after a brief spell in limbo
JMP1 - Josh Reddick OF BOS

[b:951af228c6]jagman - RE-PICK NEEDED[/b:951af228c6]

john law - Rafael Perez RP CLE
cshanajr Josh Anderson OF Det
thisisray - Andres Blanco 2B TEX
7smitty7 - Jayson Nix IF CLE
qksilver - Mike Sweeney 1B/DH SEA (now PHI)
joshflanagan - Delwyn Young

[jagman2882]

FIRST ROUND
litangel - RA Dickey, SP Mets
kaviksdad - Matt Belisle RP Colo
tcochran - Wilson Betemit, 3B KC
superfly - Josh Bard C SEA (via proxy)
KNIGHT - OCTAVIO DOTEL RP CHW
Mr BBW - Brooks Conrad-Atlanta Braves 3b/2b
Rant - Chris Young SP SD
Tom Pierce - Luke French, SP
Page2 - Mitre, Sergio SP/RP NYY
terry - David Robertson, RP, NYY
Mike Lopp - Gregor Blanco - cf-KC
sjkorte - Santiago Casilla RP OAK-SF
Cubit - Shawn Kelley P
pennyville/JMP1 - B. Lillibridge
jagman - D. McCutchen P PIT
john law - David Hernandez P - BAL
The Turtle - Jeff Manship
Albert2b - Bill Hall, UTIL
cshanajr - Reggie Willits OF LAA
thisisray - Bobby Parnell RP NYM
7smitty7 - Jesse Crain RP MIN
qksilver - Kyle Farnsworth RP KC

2ND ROUND
litangel - Laynce Nix OF Cin
superfly - DeWayne Wise OF (proxy)
KNIGHT - Emilio Bonifacio UT FLA
Mr BBW - Tyler Greene SLC SS
Rant - Aaron Cunningham - RF SD
Tom Pierce - Daniel Herrera, RP
Page2 - Jeff Karstens PIT SP (by proxy)
tcochran - Luis Rodriguez SD SS
kaviksdad - Jason Berken RP Balt
terry - Jose Veras, RP
Mike Lopp - Joel Hanrahan-RP-PIT
Cubit - Clete Thomas OF Det returns to my club after a brief spell in limbo
JMP1 - Josh Reddick OF BOS

jagman - Willy Tavares OF CIN

john law - Rafael Perez RP CLE
cshanajr Josh Anderson OF Det
thisisray - Andres Blanco 2B TEX
7smitty7 - Jayson Nix IF CLE
qksilver - Mike Sweeney 1B/DH SEA (now PHI)
joshflanagan - Delwyn Young