ATG IV 16 event Franchise League

[pjatscfy52]

What happens if I choose something besides the two themes that are tied?

Are we allowed to protect any players?

[buster j ratt]

[quote:a271da0a52="jpgavin"]1. [b:a271da0a52]Minimum eligability requirements[/b:a271da0a52]
125 mil / DH / Waivers / 5-10-20 FA drops / 4 round live draft
Declare 8 players carded to your franchise before the draft

All players on your roster must be carded to franchise - OR - have:
Career totals with franchise:

Hitters: 2500 PAs
Starting pitchers: 1000 IP
Relief pitchers: 250 IP

(AeroDave)


2. [b:a271da0a52]Post WWII and expansion era [/b:a271da0a52]
100mil / DH / waivers / 5-10-20 FA drops / Autodraft

The twist is that we use the post WW2 + expansion players and stadiums only... (2cityfan)

3. [b:a271da0a52]Cheap rotation[/b:a271da0a52]
$80 million / no DH / Frenzy / 5-10-20 FA drops / Autodraft

* Carded players only

* A ballpark from either deadball or pre-WWII.

* Pitching rotation, at least two of which are left-handed, valued at no more than $16 million total (20 million for a 5 man rotation). (majicmg)

4. [b:a271da0a52]One pitcher, one hitter [/b:a271da0a52]

60 mil / DH / waivers / 5-10-20 FA drops / 2 round live draft as below

Every team chooses a SP worth over 8 mil and a hitter worth over 9 mil. These two players must remain on your roster the entire season. The total salary of these two players must be [b:a271da0a52]at least [/b:a271da0a52]19 mil. These will be selected in a 2 round draft (one round pitchers, one round hitters). Draft order determined randomly for each round. (Not a snake.) Hitters round 1st. You may not carry any other players worth over 7 million. (jpgavin)

As always, players are available to your franchise as long as they had one AB or pitched 1/3 of an inning with your team unless otherwise indicated in the rule. Your team must have played in your stadium at some point.[/quote:a271da0a52]


Near as I can tell from above NO! :(at least in the one I am pulling for Think you can in the other but big restrictions

[novie]

3 have already indicated that protecting some players is good... maybe JP can weigh in here and make an executive decision on it.

[jpgavin]

Bryan,

If we have a tie, then we have a two rule run off. Since there has been so much interest in protecting players, before the run off we'll specify a way that carded players could be protected within the framework of each rule. If it's still a tie after the run off, I guess we go to lottery numbers, high number rule wins.

[novie]

Questions if we choose this theme...

[quote:176d289825]4. One pitcher, one hitter

60 mil / DH / waivers / 5-10-20 FA drops / 2 round live draft as below

Every team chooses a SP worth over 8 mil and a hitter worth over 9 mil. These two players must remain on your roster the entire season. The total salary of these two players must be at least 19 mil. These will be selected in a 2 round draft (one round pitchers, one round hitters). [/quote:176d289825]

If we must select one SP >8m and one Hitter >9m, then why does the total have to be over 19M? Shouldn't it be 17M? If not, shouldn't the individual numbers be higher?

Here's a scenario that is reminiscent of the last league....What happens if a team chooses a hitter at 9M in round one and then loses out on the only pitcher in round 2 valued at 10M even available to them? Last league, due to the way the draft went I had to select a SP in round 3 and cut him as I had no use for him and there were no hitters available to me to select in the entire draft.

There could be a problem here.

[jpgavin]

Novie,

I chose the 19 million (instead of 17 million) total because I wanted to exaggerate the separation between the one good hitter or pitcher and the rest of the line up / staff. As you point out, there is a potential problem with meeting this requirement during the pitcher round. That's why the hitting round has to be first.

Let's account for potential problems this way:

Your example fits the Orioles. If they miss out on Sisler and Hornsby, then they are stuck with Ripken. If that happens, then the only pitcher that qualifies is Waddell. If he gets picked before the O's draft, then they must take the highest priced pitcher available to them. It's a short draft, I'll monitor this for each team. So you have to exceed the salary requirements if you can, and if you can't you've got to come as close as possible.

The teams this might happen to are the Orioles (as above), and the Tigers because they are essentially stuck with Bunning (if they miss him there's a big drop in salary to Rowe: why couldn't they have given this team a couple of decent pitchers?).

The White Sox could miss on a hitter above 9 mil, but then have two Allen and Jackson, and the Twins may have to drop to Delahanty as their hitter. We'll solve this by making the hitter minimum 8.8 million.

If it comes to a run off, we'll drop the hitter minimum to 8.8 mil to protect the Twins and White Sox and we'll allow 2 "protected players" from the carded players for each franchise, one of which may be over 8 mil (pitcher) or 8.8 mil (hitter).

[novie]

JP... if this is the theme, wouldn't it be easier and keep the balance between teams more even to just have the overall total? That way someone may not get stuck at 2 for 20M and another team come in at 17 or 18M. In a 60M league, that 2 or 3 M could be a huge thing. I haven't done all the research right now, but the Dodgers fall into the danger cateory as well. Have identified only 3 hitters so far... combined with just one pitcher scenario under or real close to a total of 20M. The rest are over 20M. And all 4 of these players are eligible for other teams.

Think if you simplify the rule, then running into an issue becomes less likely.

[AeroDave10]

I don't really like either of these top two choices, but the postWW2/exp appeals to me more. My one chance with the Yankees and I can't have Ruth, Dimaggio, Gehrig, Gomez, Chesbro, and a whole bunch of other carded and non-carded players who donned the pinstripes. :cry:


1. buster j ratt -exp+post WW2 era
2. Errormagnate - exp + post WW2 era
3. andycummings 1 hitter/1pitcher
4. majicmg - 1 hitter / 1 pitcher
5. rosenthm - 1 hitter / 1 pitcher
6. FAaron - 1 hitter/ 1 pitcher
7. AeroDave - postWW2/exp era
8. Pjatscfy
9. jpgavin - 1 hitter / 1 pitcher
10. novie -exp + post ww2 era
11. Cubs48 -exp + post ww2 era
12. 2cityfan - exp + post WW2 era

[2cityfan]

I got the Yankees in the restricted OPS league, so although I got good pitching from Gomez, I could not use: Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio, Mantle...

in the post WW2/exp format you still get: Mantle, Rizzuto, Ford, Berra, Mattingly and access to a lot of other key impact players...

[pjatscfy52]

[b:880535b355]Let the small ball begin![/b:880535b355]

1. buster j ratt -exp+post WW2 era
2. Errormagnate - exp + post WW2 era
3. andycummings 1 hitter/1pitcher
4. majicmg - 1 hitter / 1 pitcher
5. rosenthm - 1 hitter / 1 pitcher
6. FAaron - 1 hitter/ 1 pitcher
7. AeroDave - postWW2/exp era
[b:880535b355]8. Pjatscfy - 1 hitter / 1 pitcher[/b:880535b355]
9. jpgavin - 1 hitter / 1 pitcher
10. novie -exp + post ww2 era
11. Cubs48 -exp + post ww2 era
12. 2cityfan - exp + post WW2 era