NEW SUMMER LEAGUE - AUCTION - CHAT ONLY

[Palanion]

Bullpen insight.

First,
[quote:8fae85a95d]the team I played the other night had 9 lefties in the lineup and unfortunately I had to pitch Doc Medich who is a 7R righty. So I set him to Quick Hook and avoid lefty hitters thinking it would pull him right away and use my bullpen. But alas he pitched 7 innings and took the loss!
[/quote:8fae85a95d]
The game engine will not "quick hook" a SP unless he's reached the endurance rating, from what I have figured out. So, that seems normal, without knowing any more particulars of the game. And usually, if the bullpen is already taxed from previous games usage, then HAL will use the SP even more heavily to avoid burning the pen even more.

Next,
[quote:8fae85a95d]I have been reading somewhat negative comments, posted on the message boards, by various managers, pertaining to ATGIV. The main areas of discontent seem to relate to the high offensive numbers being put up by a majority of teams, and the unpredictability associated with the bullpens in general. [/quote:8fae85a95d]
The way ATG is set up right now, hitters absolutely rule the game. There is no way around it. A major part of the problem is the way pitchers are handled. Whether it's SPs being PH for early, the wrong RPs being used, etc. I also believe that the pricing for pitchers is off - just look at how we're drafting. We'll pay a premium for an offensive stud, but we'll low-ball every pitcher. I'm not saying Tim Keefe should be $4M, but the pitching prices should be lower, particularly since the game favors hitting.
Lastly, I ama a tester in the bullpen logic project. We've been at this since September. It's amazing what goes into it, and I don't even see what Bernie has to see (the code). There have been many instances where he has been reading and searching the code just to answer our questions on why something happens, because once the testers know why something happens we can then relate it to game scenarios to see if the why is even appropriate.
We just received another set of games to look at from the latest build last night. I spent some time today finding some problems with the game results; things that Bernie must now figure out why they happened when the new build was supposed to fix them not exasperate them.
I think we're probably 8 weeks away from the new game engine being in place. Once it is, the game will be MUCH better. Trust me. I'm sure people will still find faulty logic and things to complain about, but it is MUCH better.
Since we test the same teams over and over using each new code build, it makes it easy to see some changes on the surface, such as lower SLG and lower ERA.
I can't divulge any specifics about the project or the new codes, etc. until it launches, but ATG will be better for all the time this has taken.

[DOHowser1]

[quote:9d517ccea9="gfdwarf07"]I suggested in two posts above that it simply slides "down" to the next team down the division list - as we have it listed, working East to West. If it's the last team on our list it goes back to the top. This is as random and fair as anything.

EAST
1. Mike Lopp - Cabarrus County Jumping Frogs - ANAHEIM '78
4. Mr. Baseball World - Washington Heights Brewers Hilltop '11
7. Palanion - Throwing Muses - Robison '11
10, gorshar - Knights of Goodbye - Fulton County '78

CENTRAL
2. ldanred -Sportsmans 41 AL
5. BobBoone - Seattle Maritimers - Polo Grounds '41
8. DONFESQ - Arlington Awhiles - Griffith 11
11. gfdwarf07 - If It Takes All Summer Comiskey '78

WEST
3. DHowser - Canadian Back Bacon - Griffith '57
6. bkeat23 - Summertime Blues - Palace of the Fans
9. DOHOwser - The Cattle Auctioneer - Forbes '57
12. mjruth - Fenway Green Monsters -Fenway 41[/quote:9d517ccea9]

As per above post made by gfdwarf on page 15, if this is the case, we are on track right now! My vote is let's stay with it.

[jmlopp]

I too, have been tired of ATG IV due to its emphasis on Hitting.
However, I proposed a league a couple of weeks ago. All Hitters
and relief pitchers less than 1 million; All Starters 2 million or less. I had absolutely no takers. So maybe nobody plays this game except to
see the Babe hit a homer every other day.

Mike

[DOHowser1]

Okay guys, have we decided on how to proceed once your roster is filled? If it hasn't LET"S GET ER DONE.

I would suggest someone who knows how to do this, to set up on this board......not on the bidding board, as too many messages makes it difficult to following the bidding.......a way to track the votes.

It seems we have two choices. (1) same player picks the next one up....or (2) slides down the draft order.

My vote is for (2)

[bkeat23]

For the nomination after roster is full question.

Place your bets :D :wink:

[Palanion]

You know what I just realized? When Mike Lopp was awarded Cy Young, Young was his 10th and final pitcher. Mike then nominated Gaylord Perry - with a bid! :shock:
It didn't change anything, but had no one made a bid for Perry, what would we have done?

[bkeat23]

I couldn't find a Youtube, but while Ozzie Smith is up for bids....

Sam Bush is a "NewGrass" mandolin and violin player, I really like his stuff. He's a huge Cardinal and baseball fan. He did a version of Take Me out to the ballgame on a recent CD, and also an homage to Ozzie Smith called "Hey Ozzie". He named his dog Ozzie as well.

Met him before a show a few years ago, and had a nice talk about baseball. He also asked me what type of music I grew up with, I told him heavy stuff like Zep and Zappa, and later AC/DC, but had worked into Folk, Americana, and Newgrass as I got older and into my 40's, and married a big fan of Sam.... :wink:

In the middle of the show, he did the first several chords to AC/DC's Back in Black..(dunt, dadadunt,dadadunt,).then said "I don't think AC/DC's playing any of our songs tonite, so we'll skip that one!"

[bkeat23]

Bidding seems brisk this afternoon :D

[DOHowser1]

Since we have two boards set up, one for chat, and one for bidding, I would suggest we do exactly that.

Keep the chat on this board, and the BIDDING ONLY on the BIDDING board!

Trying to separate the bidding from the chat sometimes becomes a little difficult.

[DOHowser1]

The way I see it:

If all managers have the minimum of a nickel to spend, then we go to a draft.....CORRECT?

If a few managers, have in excess of a nickel to spend, and need to fill a roster slot, I see the following happening.

For example: Three managers are left needing to fill pitcher slots and all have in excess of a nickel to spend. (DonFESQ, Palanion and BobBoone)

Bob needs 1 Pitcher to fill his roster
Don needs 2 Pitchers to fill his roster
Palanion needs 2 Pitchers to fill his roster

1. Current pitcher up for bid is Cox and Bob wins the bid for $.6, and therefore fills his last pitching slot. The next pitcher to be nominated must go to Don or Palanion. IT MAKES NO SENSE for Bob to nominate the next pitcher, because, perhaps Don and Palanion may have NO interest in the pitcher being nominated by Bob.....SO

2. The next pitcher to be nominated on the sliding scale goes to DON. Don then nominates Freddy Freeloader for $.6, and in order to speed things up, Palanion advises Don whether he is interested in bidding or not. If he is not interested, Freddy Freeloader is automatically awarded to DON. If Palanion is interested he would go to $.7, and once again, in order to speed things along, DON would say whether he is interested in going over that amount.

3. If Palanion indicates he is not interested in bidding on Freddy Freeloader, then DON nominates the next pitcher, Billy Goat. and the same procedure goes into affect.

4. If Palanion indicates he is not interested in Billy Goat, then Billy is awarded to DON, who then has his last pitching slot filled.

5. Palanion then gets to nominate the next two pitchers who are automatically awarded to him at a nickel each, or 10% of their value, whatever is higher.

At this point all pitching slots would have been filled. Keep in mind guys, we are talking about fringe players here, and I believe using this scenario will help keep things going.