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Thanks to all that joined. I believe this is about as close as we will ever get to actually recreating an era in baseball. Team players from the era with all 1911 stadiums. When we are done with the draft there will only be about 65 unused players.

Just a reminder of the original rules……….

League Name – Deadballs
80M
NO DH
5/10/20
frenzy (because it won’t really matter)
NO trades
NO free agent pool (except players that are your exclusive property)
MUST use the stadium from your deadball team
Helpful if you could incorporate your team into the Team Name

- There are 16 deadball era teams and with only a few minor adjustments I believe this can become quite competitive.
- After 12 teams are chosen (first come, first serve), the 12 teams will be sequenced from lowest team salary to highest team salary. This will also set division alignment.
- There will then be a 4 round draft (lowest to highest) of players from the remaining 4 teams that were not chosen. To help the lower salaried teams the draft will be a little different.
- Round 1 will be just the 4 lowest salaried teams (lowest to highest)
- Round 2 will be just the 8 lowest salaried teams (lowest to highest)
- Rounds 3 and 4 will be all 12 teams (lowest to highest, both rounds)
(For example, the manager with the lowest salaried team after 12 are chosen, will have picks 1, 5, 13 and 25 and the manager with the highest salaried team will only have picks 24 and 36)
- This will help the lower salaried teams and make all the rosters strato legal.
- Draft will take place on the ILC boards.
- The players from your chosen team and the 2, 3 or 4 you draft become your exclusive property.
- The remaining players that were not drafted off the 4 remaining teams can no longer be used.
- There will be NO trading, but you can dip into your excess players during the season (with the obvious 5/10/20 penalty).
- Divisions will also be set by team salary (prior to the 4 round draft). Lowest 4 team salaries to the East, next 4 to the Central and highest 4 to the West.

Team (Stadiums all 1911), Team Salary
New York Highlanders/Yankees (Hilltop 17,12,1,19), 53.57 – thaibill
Washington Senators (Griffith 5,5,19,5), 57.03 – Cubs48
Cincinnati Reds (Palace of the Fans 15,7,2,2), 62.46 – not used, players drafted
Brooklyn Superbas/Robins/Dodgers (Washington 4,1,2,2), 63.47 – not used, players drafted
St Louis Browns (Sportsman’s 11,6,2,2), 69.09 – rosenthm
Chicago White Sox (Comiskey 1,6,3,9), 70.14 – Frank M
Boston Beaneaters/Braves (South End 3,3,17,19), 72.35 – not used, players drafted
Detroit Tigers (Bennett 12,12,9,19), 72.37 – RoijaDave
Philadelphia Phillies (Baker 19,6,19,19),74.29 – Mr Groundhog
Cleveland Blues/Naps/Indians (League 13,17,1,1), 78.14 – andycummings65
St Louis Cardinals (Robison 6,15,2,1), 78.59 – LMBombers
Chicago Cubs (West Side 7,7,7,2), 78.91 – not used, players drafted
Boston Americans/Red Sox (Huntington 4,4,19,19), 79.17 – Sgt Jim
Philadelphia Athletics (Shibe 3,3,4,1), 87.02 – misterg
Pittsburgh Pirates (Forbes 9,13,2,2), 87.49 – bullmcintosh
New York Giants (Polo 2,8,7,16), 113.76 – sdajr76

Divisions

And can I get a volunteer from the East to set up the league?

These are the parameters,
League Name – Deadballs
pre-WW2 set
Advanced
80M
NO DH
5/10/20
frenzy

East
New York Highlanders/Yankees (Hilltop 17,12,1,19), 53.57 – thaibill
Washington Senators (Griffith 5,5,19,5), 57.03 – Cubs48
St Louis Browns (Sportsman’s 11,6,2,2), 69.09 – rosenthm
Chicago White Sox (Comiskey 1,6,3,9), 70.14 – Frank M

Central
Detroit Tigers (Bennett 12,12,9,19), 72.37 – RoijaDave
Philadelphia Phillies (Baker 19,6,19,19),74.29 – Mr Groundhog
Cleveland Blues/Naps/Indians (League 13,17,1,1), 78.14 – andycummings65
St Louis Cardinals (Robison 6,15,2,1), 78.59 – LMBombers

West
Boston Americans/Red Sox (Huntington 4,4,19,19), 79.17 – Sgt Jim
Philadelphia Athletics (Shibe 3,3,4,1), 87.02 – misterg
Pittsburgh Pirates (Forbes 9,13,2,2), 87.49 – bullmcintosh
New York Giants (Polo 2,8,7,16), 113.76 – sdajr76

Players available to draft from the unused teams
Cincinnati Reds
Brooklyn
Boston Beaneaters
Chicago Cubs

Brown, Three Finger R S8+ 11.05
Willis, Vic R S8+ 8.41
Brouthers, Dan L 1b-3e14 7.40
Rucker, Nap L S8+ 7.14
Taylor, Jack R S9+ 7.05
Hahn, Noodles L S9+ 7.02
Weimer, Jake L S8+ 6.79
Chance, Frank R 1b-1e8 6.69
Evers, Johnny L 2b-1e14 lf-4(+5)e6 rf-4e6 cf-4e6 6.48
Radbourn, Charley R S9+ 5.64
Ewing, Bob R S 9+ 5.53
Hamilton, Billy L cf-3(+4)e11 lf-3e11 5.31
Bell, George R S8+ 5.31
Anson, Cap R 1b-2e12 5.27
Pfeffer, Jeff R S9+ 5.19
Reulbach, Ed R S7+/R5 5.16
Young, Irv L S9+ 5.06
Vaughn, Hippo L S7+ 5.00
Keeler, Willie L rf-3(-3)e10 4.91
Kelley, Joe R lf-2(-1)e9 1b-4e14 3b-4e32 4.79
Pfiester, Jack L S7 4.77
Rudolph, Dick R S9+/R5 4.69
Schneider, Pete R S8+/R5 4.61
Groh, Heinie R 3b-1e14 ss-4e29 4.25
Beckley, Jake L 1b-3e14 4.22
Daubert, Jake L 1b-1e13 4.20
Seymour, Cy L cf-2(-3)e9 rf-2e9 lf-2e9 4.17
Kelly, King R rf-3(-3)e11 c-4(0)e10,T-20(pb-19) 4.14
Suggs, George R S9+ 4.05
Pittinger, Togie R S9+ 4.03
Sheckard, Jimmy L lf-1(+1)e6 rf-2e6 cf-3e6 4.03
Hendrix, Claude R S8/R5 4.00
Clarkson, John R S9+ 3.75
Hughes, Tom R R3 3.63
Tinker, Joe R ss-1e29 3.56
Smith, Red R 3b-2e29 3.51
Maranville, Rabbit R ss-1e34 3.35
Kennedy, Brickyard R S8+ 3.30
Benton, Rube L S7+/R5 3.02
Breitenstein, Ted L S9 3.02
Dahlen, Bill R ss-2e20 2.79
Stengel, Casey L cf-2(0)e8 rf-2e8 lf-2e8 2.74
Bescher, Bob S lf-3(+1)e6 cf-3e6 rf-3e6 2.58
Ewing, Buck R 1b-4e14 2.53
Cutshaw, George R 2b-1e18 2.51
McPhee, Bid R 2b-3e10 2.41
Mitchell, Mike R rf-2(-3)e8 cf-2e8 2.33
Lumley, Harry L rf-3(-2)e10 lf-3e10 cf-3e10 2.27
Hofman, Solly R cf-3(0)e6 rf-3e6 lf-3e6 2.27
Hummel, John R 2b-2e12 2.19
Delahanty, Jim R 3b-4e37 2b-2e20 lf-4(+5)e11 rf-4e11 cf-4e11 2.15
Kitson, Frank R S8+/R2 1.98
Demontreville, Gene R 2b-2e15 3b-4e35 1.89
Humphries, Bert R R5 1.84
Jordan, Tim L 1b-4e15 1.74
Slagle, Jimmy L cf-2(+1)e6 rf-2e6 lf-2e6 1.74
Steinfeldt, Harry R 3b-2e21 1.73
Ragan, Pat R R5 1.72
Beck, Fred L cf-2(0)e6 rf-2e6 lf-2e6 1b-4e16 1.68
Zimmerman, Heinie R 3b-3e37 ss-4e44 2b-3e29 1.65
Jennings, Hughie R 1b-2e14 2b-3e28 1.53
Schulte, Frank L rf-4(-3)e5 lf-4e5 cf-4e5 1.49
Packard, Gene L R5 1.44
Carter, Paul R R5 1.39
Seaton, Tom R R5 1.28
Neale, Greasy L rf-1(+1)e8 cf-3e8 1.20
Powell, Ray L lf-1(-2)e9 cf-2e9 1.07
Kling, Johnny R c-1(0)e7,T-12(pb-4) ss-4e38 1.07
Archer, Jimmy R c-1(-4)e2,T-11(pb-2) 1b-3e10 2b-4e30 1.07
Johnston, Jimmy R 3b-2e31 ss-4e29 lf-4(+1)e15 rf-4e15 1.01
Myers, Hap R 1b-3e12 0.97
McGuire, Deacon R c-3(0)e10,T-15(pb-8) 1b-4e14 0.96
Mann, Les R lf-3(-1)e8 rf-3e8 cf-3e8 0.95
Babb, Charlie S ss-2e30 0.92
Herzog, Buck R ss-2e27 1b-4e10 0.84
Lear, King R R5 0.80
Kittridge, Malachi R c-1(0)e5,T-9(pb-3) 0.68
McCarthy, Tommy R lf-3(+1)e11 2b-4e28 0.68
Williams, Cy L cf-4(-2)e6 rf-4e6 lf-4e6 0.65
Schulz, Al L R5 0.65
Knetzer, Elmer R R5 0.64
Mitchell, Clarence L R5 0.63
Phelan, Art R 3b-2e28 2b-4e17 0.62
Miller, Otto R c-1(-3)e7,T-12(pb-4) 0.60
Crutcher, Dick R R5 0.57
Appleton, Ed R R3 0.57
Moseley, Earl R R5 0.57
Yingling, Earl L R5 0.56
Long, Herman L ss-3e32 0.52
Prendergast, Mike R R2 0.52
Lowe, Bobby R 3b-3e25 2b-2e20 0.50
Cannell, Rip L cf-2(+2)e10 rf-2e10 lf-2e10 0.50
Allen, Frank L R5 0.50
Casey, Doc S 3b-3e25 c-4(+5)e10,T-15(pb-7) 0.50
Raymer, Fred R 3b-3e34 ss-4e31 1b-4e14 2b-2e20 0.50
Wingo, Ivey L c-2(-1)e8,T-13(pb-3) 2b-5e23 0.50
Egan, Dick R 2b-3e19 0.50
Kopf, Larry S ss-2e36 3b-3e11 2b-3e23 cf-4(+3)e15 0.50
Corcoran, Tommy R ss-3e38 2b-4e16 0.50

Draft order

Another reminder….
To be Strato eligible (in other words, to be able to fill out a draft roster that HAL will accept)
Americans/Red Sox need to draft at least one pitcher
Pirates need to draft at least one position player
Senators need to draft at least one S/R or R
Everyone else is OK

Round 1
1 – thaibill
2 - Cubs48
3 - rosenthm
4 – Frank M

Round 2
5 – thaibill
6 - Cubs48
7 - rosenthm
8 – Frank M
9 - RoijaDave
10 - Mr Groundhog
11- andycummings65
12- LMBombers

Round 3
13 – thaibill
14 - Cubs48
15 - rosenthm
16 – Frank M
17 - RoijaDave
18 - Mr Groundhog
19- andycummings65
20- LMBombers
21- Sgt Jim
22- misterg
23- bullmcintosh
24- sdajr76

Round 4
25 – thaibill
26 - Cubs48
27 - rosenthm
28 – Frank M
29 - RoijaDave
30 - Mr Groundhog
31- andycummings65
32- LMBombers
33- Sgt Jim
34- misterg
35- bullmcintosh
36- sdajr76

When I click on Hugh Duffy's card it reads 1901 Milwaukee Brewers. I suppose this is a misprint and he is really a Cardinal for me to use?

The 1901 Milwaukee Brewers became the St Louis Browns, who became the Baltimore Orioles. I don't understand all the history, but Duffy and Garvin are listed with the St Louis Cardinals deadball team. We are going stricly by the teams Strato created.

So, Yes, they are both yours.

Draft order

Another reminder….
To be Strato eligible (in other words, to be able to fill out a draft roster that HAL will accept)
Americans/Red Sox need to draft at least one pitcher
Pirates need to draft at least one position player
Senators need to draft at least one S/R or R
Everyone else is OK

Round 1
1 – thaibill - Willie Keeler
2 - Cubs48
3 - rosenthm
4 – Frank M

Round 2
5 – thaibill
6 - Cubs48
7 - rosenthm
8 – Frank M
9 - RoijaDave
10 - Mr Groundhog
11- andycummings65
12- LMBombers

Round 3
13 – thaibill
14 - Cubs48
15 - rosenthm
16 – Frank M
17 - RoijaDave
18 - Mr Groundhog
19- andycummings65
20- LMBombers
21- Sgt Jim
22- misterg
23- bullmcintosh
24- sdajr76

Round 4
25 – thaibill
26 - Cubs48
27 - rosenthm
28 – Frank M
29 - RoijaDave
30 - Mr Groundhog
31- andycummings65
32- LMBombers
33- Sgt Jim
34- misterg
35- bullmcintosh
36- sdajr76

I just looked at my team and reneged on my pick, hope that didn't screw anyone up. There is no hope for this team, but I should have known.

Draft order

Another reminder….
To be Strato eligible (in other words, to be able to fill out a draft roster that HAL will accept)
Americans/Red Sox need to draft at least one pitcher
Pirates need to draft at least one position player
Senators need to draft at least one S/R or R
Everyone else is OK

Round 1
1 – thaibill - Willie Keeler
2 - Cubs48 - Threefinger Brown
3 - rosenthm
4 – Frank M

Round 2
5 – thaibill
6 - Cubs48
7 - rosenthm
8 – Frank M
9 - RoijaDave
10 - Mr Groundhog
11- andycummings65
12- LMBombers

Round 3
13 – thaibill
14 - Cubs48
15 - rosenthm
16 – Frank M
17 - RoijaDave
18 - Mr Groundhog
19- andycummings65
20- LMBombers
21- Sgt Jim
22- misterg
23- bullmcintosh
24- sdajr76

Round 4
25 – thaibill
26 - Cubs48
27 - rosenthm
28 – Frank M
29 - RoijaDave
30 - Mr Groundhog
31- andycummings65
32- LMBombers
33- Sgt Jim
34- misterg
35- bullmcintosh
36- sdajr76

Draft order

Another reminder….
To be Strato eligible (in other words, to be able to fill out a draft roster that HAL will accept)
Americans/Red Sox need to draft at least one pitcher
Pirates need to draft at least one position player
Senators need to draft at least one S/R or R
Everyone else is OK

Round 1
1 – thaibill - Willie Keeler
2 - Cubs48 - Threefinger Brown
3 - rosenthm - Tom Hughes
4 – Frank M

Round 2
5 – thaibill
6 - Cubs48
7 - rosenthm
8 – Frank M
9 - RoijaDave
10 - Mr Groundhog
11- andycummings65
12- LMBombers

Round 3
13 – thaibill
14 - Cubs48
15 - rosenthm
16 – Frank M
17 - RoijaDave
18 - Mr Groundhog
19- andycummings65
20- LMBombers
21- Sgt Jim
22- misterg
23- bullmcintosh
24- sdajr76

Round 4
25 – thaibill
26 - Cubs48
27 - rosenthm
28 – Frank M
29 - RoijaDave
30 - Mr Groundhog
31- andycummings65
32- LMBombers
33- Sgt Jim
34- misterg
35- bullmcintosh
36- sdajr76

Draft order

Another reminder….
To be Strato eligible (in other words, to be able to fill out a draft roster that HAL will accept)
Americans/Red Sox need to draft at least one pitcher
Pirates need to draft at least one position player
Senators need to draft at least one S/R or R
Everyone else is OK

Round 1
1 – thaibill - Willie Keeler
2 - Cubs48 - Threefinger Brown
3 - rosenthm - Tom Hughes
4 – Frank M - Dan Brouthers

Round 2
5 – thaibill
6 - Cubs48
7 - rosenthm
8 – Frank M
9 - RoijaDave
10 - Mr Groundhog
11- andycummings65
12- LMBombers

Round 3
13 – thaibill
14 - Cubs48
15 - rosenthm
16 – Frank M
17 - RoijaDave
18 - Mr Groundhog
19- andycummings65
20- LMBombers
21- Sgt Jim
22- misterg
23- bullmcintosh
24- sdajr76

Round 4
25 – thaibill
26 - Cubs48
27 - rosenthm
28 – Frank M
29 - RoijaDave
30 - Mr Groundhog
31- andycummings65
32- LMBombers
33- Sgt Jim
34- misterg
35- bullmcintosh
36- sdajr76